I’m loving Flash Concentration so far. Like someone above mentioned, I made a WeakAura for it too–which has really helped me with tracking it. I can set it up to stack the buffs before a point when I know heavy damage will be incoming. I ended up crafting the neck piece for it rather than the wrists… which I am kinda regretting but oh well.
I try to read up on what I can regarding holy priests, but I’ve gotten to a point where I am just gonna play how I wanna play (I do mid-level M+, nothing too crazy, and zero raiding). I’ve let random articles ‘convince’ me that crit is what I need to be stacking whereas I feel more comfortable with high levels of mastery–so that’s what I’m gonna go back to focusing on.
And FWIW, I chose Kyrian without hesitation because I wanted to be a prety angel LOL. The elixir/healthstone is nice, especially because it removes bleeds/poisons, etc. Boon is… just so stupid, haha. I normally throw out some heals on the tank and then jump into the dogpile and start AOEing. Most people are like WTF is the priest doing?? lol
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FC is good in PvP if you’re in a position to get 5 stacks up and use it, but you’ll OOM yourself very fast spamming Heal. Also, Holy isn’t behind in Disc because of it not being competitive, but that it’s played overall less. For example: only 50 of the top 500 healing priests in M+ are Holy Priests (which I’m in- but I completely stopped pushing keys this week cause Tyrannical is bad).
I honestly think the person who is writing these wowhead articles doesn’t even play a Holy Priest. When I changed my playstyle around the strengths of using Flash Concentration I realized how damn powerful it is for healing tanks through the beatdowns they were getting from trash on fortified weeks.
Harmonious is better for raid healing where you’re not focused on single target healing because you get the additional benefit of more Holy Words reducing Salvations cooldown faster over lengthy fights. Some of these raids are 6-8 minutes long and you can get double salvations off.
You know, I’ve been getting the same impression about Jak. I’m sure he’s a fine player and all but he also writes the disc commentary and his attitude for a while now seems to be hostile to holy.
This sort of elitist “we’re the real priest healers” mindset has infected a lot of the disc players who I find toxic as hell, and it’s not helped by the fact that the vast majority of disc players are too awful to play their spec to anything like its potential.
So yeah, won’t be trusting his advice anymore. Vastly more helpful advice from Caithyra here, who even wrote a flash concentration WeakAura I adapted for my own use that’s super-helpful, and I’d like to repost here:
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In his defense, Wowhead articles are wrong for most specs, and the writers are people who have played these classes. The problem is more they’re working off like no info. They’re very much playing off feels in beta and in beta the numbers were changing constantly. Wowhead pretty much updates their articles once on patch day, and that’s about it.
For an example, Jak’s disc guide recommends Evangelism, saying Spirit Shell has situational use. Meanwhile, if you watch his Mythic raid progression streams, he’s running Spirit Shell disc every fight. Clearly favoring it over Evangelism.
Early on in SL here I was saying flash conc would be BiS for Holy (even in raid, and I still think so). A lot of people tried it and didn’t like it thinking it was awkward to keep the buff up - which is pretty much Jak’s takeaway in the Wowhead article. Can you really blame him for feeling that way when working off beta info?
That’s true, if the numbers for Flash Concentration weren’t as impressive as they are now AND I hadn’t had firsthand experience using it in a raid environment (a realistic raid, not the unkillable punching bags they may have tested against) I might have walked away with the same impression Jak had - that tracking the buff on top of the Resonant Words proc was just awkward in a hectic raid vs. having more holy words on CD.
I haven’t tried flash concentration but harmonious apparatus seems fine in raiding. That said I’m playing a bit more casually that I did in BFA where I mythic raided. My main issue with wowhead guide (besides the fact that its written by a disc player) is that they are really bad about updating them. I don’t fault them for basing it on assumptions before the expansion comes out but they really ought to keep it up to date a bit better, in BFA it was sorely outdated for most of the expansion. They do give a pretty good rundown of rotation and ability usage though which is honestly more important for the beginners who are going to rely on a guide like that imo. The icy veins guide is probably a bit better but they tend to be wishy-washy with their advice. Gotta love their advice of “pick whatever covenant you want!” yeah thanks a lot for the help. Still i believe that the guy who writes that guide wasn’t even raiding on holy for a lot of BFA because he was playing classic to my knowledge.
As someone who used to raid mythic on holy in BFA, I can understand why wowhead automatically write us off. Even when we were HPS leaders in BFA or second behind broken glimmer pally (and to my knowledge we aren’t doing great in this department at the moment) nobody wanted us because out raid utility is crap.
Well if you bothered to read the icy veins guide, it clearly says that flash concentration (holy) is the best if you can use it correctly and the penance legendary is bis for m+ for disc
It may say that now but up until 4-5 days ago it said Flash Concentration was awkward to use and unimpressive, ranking it with the likes of Divine Image.
I didn’t read it because as I said I don’t really care.
All I did was make a weakaura that tracks it and before it falls off I throw a quick flash heal. I keep it a 85% uptime in dungeons. That ranking is wrong though… Flash Concentration is S tier for M+.
Out of curiosity how often are you seeing serenity and sanctify being up?
For me, flash concentration is useful both in Raid and M+.
It’s mana conservation for me. The only part that I don’t like is process of upgrading my legendary gear to level two. I am still thinking about it. Too much mats that need to upgrade.
If you’re using Holy Oration + Light of Naaru you’re getting about an extra -6s off both Holy Words so it depends on how much you’re casting. 5 PoM/CoH casts a minute = 1 min reduction off of Holy Word Salvation every 2 min.
pretty sure the cloth armor for upgrades is super cheap compared to other armor types.
Yes, this is a very good weak aura, put it in during my raid tonight haha. Thanks to Cath 