Thats fine, but they should get a debuff. IF they are leaving for reasons, RL or something like that. 30 min Debuff shouldnt be an issue. But Why give someone a penalty for leaving non fresh run? The system is set up to screw them. This needs to be fixed.
Another option would be to implement something like bonus rolls used to work. Only trigger this upon completion of the instance (the final boss) and those who missed bosses are given a chance to do a personal loot roll against those boss loot pools. Lock them if they do the bonus rolls. So its the same to them regardless of getting an in-progress run versus not.
Otherwise, the people who get in on the endā¦and redo the bosses they missā¦ kick the can down the road. The next group has to wait. Then that group creates one more person in that situation where the group after that has to wait.
The longest a group ever has had to wait that Iāve seen is a minute or two but sometimes getting into these raids can take a lot longer then that. Itās not an equitable exchange to just force you into in progress dungeons. Even though I tank - Im thinking more of DPS who get into in progress dungeons after a 20-30 minute wait. They get the shaft.
Thatās not how the debuff works for any content.
Because those people are getting in before boss fights, not helping and leaving. Stay, kill bosses, requeue.
And set up to make sure others donāt get screwed. Shocking how that works.
Nothing needs fixed.
I have no idea what youāre talking about.
The system is fine the way it is. People acting entitled is the only problem here.
I said before, I was entitled to nothing. I am upset for being penalized for leaving something that was already incomplete. I shouldnāt be. You seem to think I am entitled, I am not. you on the other hand come across as a rather entitled human being, And its clear you are due toy our profile being in lock down so no one can see it. Only cowards have things to hide or lock down their profiles if they are afraid of Criticism.
Lol. Whines that folks should get penalized for leaving before a wing is done, leaves before a wing gets done, gets penalized, whines he shouldnāt. Classic. Just classic.
So if those other folks did the same thing YOU did, and didnāt finish the run, leaving a slot open that YOU then filled, how is what they did any different than what you did? What if that same run kept having new folks hopping into it, and then leaving, with debuffs. On and on and on and on and on. Exactly what you did. How is what YOU did any different?
Man. I think you must be walking on one leg, because you have put the hip in (HIP)ocrisy.
The other problem with this is that this could create a never ending cycle.
Blizzard tends to prioritize currently in progress runs to fill them so they can finish. If Blizzard prioritized filling new runs before backfilling in progress runs, those other runs would never finish.
But if there is no penalty for leaving an already in progress run, you could leave freely. And then youād likely get put into another run in progress or potentially that same one. You leave again, possibly the same thing happens.
Thatās just a needless cycle.
The issue is already set in place by ensuring that your second run in LFR is GUARANTEED a fresh run.
Then why not have the ancient Bronze be a weekly quest, Complete the LFR get your bronze. That way, runs are completed, Less chance for people leaving if they donāt finish it. If can be done on Any difficulty and thus are not wasting peoples time or penalizing them for leaving a run already in progress.
Like I said before, 4 characters today, 4 Ques, all run in progress first boss down. How is this fair to me when I am trying to gear things up if I have to rerun an instance for hat 1 bossās flight stones, gear and chance of a spark? Is that fair to me and my time spent?
Getting a fresh run second time around, while all good and fine, just means I am more likely to leave cause I have done the rest of the bosses and cant get anything from them. So I will likely just leave, continuing the problem.
Which will be fixed by everyone else getting the BLP of a fresh run the second time.
Your issue already has a fix
If you really need an explanation at this point, Iām not sure what to tell you.
But it isnt, Cause I only had time for that run. Not queing for a second one. People shouldnāt have to QUE a second time to get the boss they missed the frirst time. People leaving should get a 15 min Debuff. Or as an alternative, give the new people a bundle in the mail with flight stones or a spark. something to compensate them for their time. Cause if they leave, they get a penalty for someone else leaving when they should be the ones with the debuff.
Hold on a second.
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If I only need a drop off the first boss why would I ever want to kill the other ones?
Then you should get a 30 min Debuff for leaving before the run was complete. Just like someone joining a run in progress gets a 30 min debuff for leaving an incomplete run.
If that last boss isnt dead and you leave, 30 min Debuff.
So you donāt get a guaranteed full run for LFR or dungeons or any auto queue content. Thanks for agreeing.
Moving on.
Honey, you can still see my armory and find any posts I made. Hiding a profile does nothing except stop people from seeing the ācurrently typingā icon on threads. Only people who have no real argument try to insult others with nonsense.
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Frostheart why do you seriously care? Players who leave half way through a LFR raid are replaced instantly. DPS ques are not that long if you do get sucked into a raid half done and need to re que for the same wing again. You donāt like people coming and going as they please in LFR then join a guild and run normal.
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Well, at least you identified the problem.
Because he keeps leaving in progress runs and gets mad he canāt have what he wants immediately: a fresh run on first queue. We must cater to him and screw over other groups.
All this angst over something you literally queue up for with zero regard for qualification beyond ilvl. You are a DK you want fast queues, learn to tank.
Yeah, itās literally the definition of a selfish problem. Itās hidden under the guise of altruism, but itās not.