Hmm, ok if you say so.
Yep.
Like I’m not disagreeing warlock is in a weird spot the point of me ‘rating shaming’ was to disprove the OP when he says ‘Yes, I know how to play’ when he very obviously doesn’t.
Regardless of how warlock plays atm, people will ALWAYS blame the game before their own play; those players don’t get better they stagnate which is what has happened to OP.
That is all I’m saying.
Shadowfury infernal fear and seduce literally set u up for free goes
Id rather be a warlock fighting ret warr pres than be an arms warrior fighting mage dev hpal and its not even remotely close
Warlocks need a serious buff.
Who tf is letting you cast back to back chaos bolt off an infernal?
And Seduce literally means your choosing to never kick the healer at all. With a pet that the warrior can incidentally fear.
If you can win because they let you press shadowfury and then chaosbolt them in the face or infernal you were likely going to win if you got off the keyboard and started doing yoga. And acting like they are anywhere near as good as Kyrian Spear is laughable. Im sorry but when I tried to play Warrior for a bit, it was feeling a million times better and waaay less frustrating than warlock.
Again: We literally saw the best warlock players REROLL from how insufferable it was and rage quit mid matches.
It is just factually true that Warlock is in a very unfun state for both sides right now.
It’s also really stupid that yall need to what aboutism warriors in a thread about how miserable it is to play warlock.
“But warrior feels bad against frost mage and another caster!”
Yeah? Warlock feels bad in general and feels absolutely insufferable to the point of people quitting the class against ANY melee cleave. Not just Warrior specifically.
Why do we need to hear about how Warriors are victimized 24-7 by frost mages any time someone says warlock doesn’t feel good to play?
You guys literally did this back during DF in the Ret/Arms/Demo/FW meta. People complained about warlock feeling miserable. Posted the pros rerolling Ret/Boom/Arms or rage quitting matches and yall went “WONT YOU THINK ABOUT THE POOR WARRIOR AGAINST FROST MAGES!” Every time someone complained about the atrocious warlock gameplay.
Again, why do we need oppression olympics from warriors any time people complain about warlock feeling awful to play?
You guys did this non stop during Ret/Arms/Demo despite people rage quitting and the best locks rerolling Ret/Boomkin because of how bad it felt.
You guys literally bring up Frost mage double caster every. Single. Time.
You don’t accept people saying frostmage warrior can suck either. You always have to oppression olympics it.
My point was to use it as an example of how warrior can be frustrating to play as well.
Teams like this feel extremely onesided because the entire match you’re just praying you can connect for a couple of seconds to do something.
It’s very comparable to trying to cast vs double melee.
It was a response to this:
And im responding to the people bringing up warrior yet again. And you earlier brought up the warrmage matchup.
Again, why do we need oppression olympics from warlocks any time people complain about warriors feeling awful to play?
You guys did this non stop during the last 4 years of hogwarts despite people rage quitting and the best warriors rerolling warlock/mage/boomkin because of how bad it felt.
You guys literally bring up ret/war double melee every. Single. Time
You don’t accept people saying ret/war warlock can suck either. You always have to oppression olympics it.
It’s not just warrior btw, WW feels like this too.
This is literally yet another warlock thread where Warriors show up, try to cry about mage and then devolve the thread into warriors only and ignore the topic of the thread.
Is this a WW or warr thread or Warlock?
Sorry, continue with your pity party.
Theres a difference between a pitty party and people trying to discuss warlocks feeling miserable on both sides and making suggestions.
And this crud you and the other warrior are doing don’t help. Make a thread about warriors. But cluttering up every discussion on warlocks not feeling good with trolling and whataboutism just makes warrior players look bad. Multiple things can feel bad at once. Craaazy idea I know!
(And if any warlock players go to warrior threads to crud on them and do whataboutism I think they would ALSO be making warlock players look bad and not helping at all.)
I straight up personally quit that season because of how unfun it was and have to force myself to play lock in pvp for the cosmetics because its that unenjoyable. So when people start popping up doing the same what aboutism from then its VERY annoying.
Id rather all classes feel fun and enjoyable to play.
I don’t think that’s rating shaming at all.
He has an obscene amount of games played at well below average rating. He is objectively one of the worst warlock players that queues shuffle and that’s not really disputable.
There is literally nothing wrong with that.
Arena is hard and, like a lot of people have said, warlock has a lot of hardcasting which can feel overwhelming vs melee.
However, this REALLY illustrates that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about because his experience shows that he fundamentally misunderstands his class.
If a ret paladin came in here and screamed about ret being underpowered in all caps about whatever they lose to, it would immediately be dismissed and for the same reason that OP is.
At the end of the day he just wants to play bm hunter it sounds like.
Doesn’t really change the fact that people at the top of the ladder also agree with them that warlock can be completely miserable to play or that top warlocks have rerolled at times because it just gets too bad.
And for a game that desperately needs more blood in pvp, shaming people like you guys are for their rating is VERY bad.
PVP desperately needs new blood.
No man, it’s a warlock problem; stop being immature.
Repent like I have to Exiler, he didn’t let warlock down, warlock let him down.
I’m always the first person to advocate for sensible warlock adjustments.
But this dudes rant was unhinged, made very few solid points that were all muddied by the fact that the presenter was acting the way he was in their post. It’s unorganized babble at best. I’m not even going to break it down bit by bit like I usually would because at this point the best advice I can offer is “come back when your head is clearer and try again”.
This is not the post to encourage or endorse for warlocks favor.
I don’t think ANYONE disagrees with warlock not feeling great into double melee.
On the flipside, what class feels GREAT into every matchup?
That was my reasoning for saying this:
But apparently that’s just using ‘oppression olympics’.
Also probably hot take for here, lower skill players feeling it is also miserable is valid when this game needs more pvpers desperately. Can’t have every spec being hard or miserable aside from BM.