Fishing - Algari Weaverline & The 2 Fisherfriends Problem

I’ve had one drop since release. However, you can buy them at the weekly fishing derby.

they do come from the treasure pools but its a rare chance

I have tested it in the game, and you do not need to do it in increments of ten.

I put 6 on when I was using a Bismuth Fisherfriend. I put the rest on when I was using my Aqirite Fisherfriend. It doesn’t matter which pole or which character uses the threads.

Any pole, any character, the threads are cumulative. You just have to put an algari weaverline on whatever pole the character is using to enable use of the threads.

You do not need to do it in groups of 10/with the achievements, and you only need 100 of each thread. I was worried about these same things, but I took the chance and used one of my perception/seekerthreads on a new pole without waiting for 10x achievement just to be sure.

It’s utterly cumulative, and any alts that catch one can use them right away. The buff will build for any character. If you catch some with alts that do not have a weaverline enchant on their pole, just warbank them and use them on a character that does.

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Wait, so the weaverline goes away when you use it? So if I upgrade poles, Ill need another 100 Artisan’s Acuity to make a new Algari Weaverline?

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like from a rank 2-5 upgrade or green to blue?
if its like rank 2-5 i dont think so

I’m still not convinced the fishing skill or perception actually does anything this expansion even after maxing out fishing skill and wasting 100 acuity on the weaverline and putting threads on it.

Open water is still mostly trash and pools give the same fish they have since 1 skill and 0 perception.

No, the weaverline never goes away. It does, however, permanently attach to whatever pole you put it on like any other enchant.

To “use” the threads, you have to have a pole enchanted with weaverline.

To benefit from the threads buffs, you have to be using a pole enchanted with weaverline.

So, if you upgrade poles, you will need another algari weaverline, best as I can tell. If there is a way to move it from one pole to another, I have not seen it, yet. I used acuity from an alt to make my 2nd one.

Edited to add: I agree that it’s RIDICULOUS we have to spend artisan’s acuity on these. We already have to spend acuity on the aqirite pole and the blue fishing hat in an expansion where acuity is not NEARLY as abundant and renewable as it was in DF.

The tooltips on this and the guides they’ve written are woefully inadequate for answering these questions. The weaverline is the complicated/expensive part. The threads are super forgiving and easy to use.

I’ve been testing it. I get significantly fewer greys fishing in the same spot on Isle of Dorn in open water now. I’m at 300 skill, and I have an aqirite fishing pole, a green hat, 6 anglerthreads, 11 seekerthreads, and I use the Ghoulfish Delight. After one timed hour of fishing in the same spot, I get roughly one grey item per five catches at +54 skill/+181 Perception.

When I did the same test in the same spot at 300 fishing with a Bismuth pole, no threads, no Ghoulfish Delight buff, and the same green hat, I got roughly 1/3 catches as grey items.

I believe they said that at 375 fishing skill, you no longer catch greys in open water. By “they,” I mean people who talked about it on YouTube from beta. I’m so sorry, but I don’t recall who said that or gave me that particular number. I just remember hearing it, and it seems accurate given what I’m seeing as I gain more fishing skill buff equipment to try.

I have not tested Azj Kahet with my timer counting, but I was trying to just do it in the same place.

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I’m sorry that it was probably my Wowhead comment that was causing confusion.

This was all from testing on Beta and for a long time it was almost impossible to get cloth, so testing Tailoring was almost impossible outside of the max-level realm with the free mats (and there we didn’t have access to Khaz Algar Fishing for the Threads)

I only tried to make suggestions from the little knowledge I had, so people wouldn’t waste Threads or Weaverlines if my worst assumptions on Weaverline/Pole exchanges came true. And a lot of it was speculation because achievements were bugged and I could only craft 2 Weaverlines to test stuff, and I decided to test them on different characters, not different poles on one character. (btw. it took forever until they were added to crafting orders).

I’m glad to hear that a lot of it works much more flexibly on Retail servers.

I’m new to fishing in this expac, i don’t even know what those are. but reading the comments it sounds like it is the fishing version of knowledge points?

Why did they make it so complicated?! They ruined such a simple profession that players enjoyed doing to relax.

It’s confusing! Where is the perception indicator like other gathering professions have?

Why can’t we use the other poles in the game like the ones from old dailies, rep vendors or for heaven’s sake the coveted artifact fishing pole to be on the level with these MANDATORY engineering poles?

Where are the specialization trees for fishing and cooking?? Legion artifact traits were so perfect for fishing, and they made sense! How come we couldn’t see that in DF or TWW??

I hate what they did to Fishing. Whoever’s job it was to work on this profession for this expansion failed miserably, and I’m not sorry.

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So you’re complaining that fishing’s complicated, yet you’re bemoaning that fishing’s missing what actually gives professions their complexity? I think your own thoughts on the subject are more complicated than fishing is…

Also, as always, you can just fish from pools and not really worry about any of it. Skill doesn’t matter in pools and I think perception can only proc when reeling in a rare (blue quality) fish so even it has a relatively minor impact.

Ug. Between waiting to craft rods until my engineer has filled out the tool tree and still needing lots of AA for main profession tools, I’ve ended up maxing out my threads before crafting my first blue rod.

(Disclaimer: not a complaint)

Even if that’s the case, you did what you could with the information you had at the time.

It was very much appreciated, even if we still had figuring to do before we fully understood it.