Fighting is Its Own Reward - Allow Mythic and M+

[Ashgaar-sargeras]

Yeah i seriously don’t understand why Heroic Dungeons and Normal Mode raids are still in the game.

[Näamah-ragnaros]

Heroic dungeons have a low participation, however; I don’t understand why you mentioned Normal, it’s a valid difficulty, actually for most of the player base there’s only Normal and Heroic, since Mythic has another set of rules. Check the #s of kills for the last raid between N/H and Mythic.

[Xiata-bloodhoof (Xiata)]

@Shieldbaby-thrall

I think they’re trying to create some sort of purpose to a game mode they made completely irrelevant but refuse to get rid of.

What made it useless for me even week 1 was the ilvl requirement. Originally I think it was 343 to queue, I just went straight into M0’s at 320 and never bothered with doing Heroics. Who wants to grind “normal” dungeons to get the ilvl for heroics? Not me.

Instead Normal dungeons should be for leveling purposes, and Heroic dungeons should be an ilvl that you’d be when you ding max level.

[Zemus-hyjal]

I demand they make a quest called Fighting Is Not The Answer. It could be about pet battles, where your pets fight because that sounds like something Blizzard would do.

[Eleusia-myzrael]

@Cäpslöck-proudmoore

If (by your own admission) the queue is that dead without and overly inflated reward to prop it up, why should the devs continue to support it?

Heroic dungeons are the only queue-able 5-man endgame option, but on their own offer no progression because the iLvl of the rewards is so low. (Who needs 389 in the new season when you already have 395+ from the previous season?)

So without the weekly cache, most players wouldn’t be doing any type of dungeon at all despite dungeons being a supposed pillar of the game.

Devs do realize what a huge barrier to entry it is to require a premade group, and are trying to address the issue.

[Eleusia-myzrael]

@Nyisha-barthilas

I sign up for 5 ruby life pools.

Oh, so you can get credit for the quest even without queueing for randoms? Good to know. (I guess you miss out on the nominal gold bonus, though.)

[Edgyjojomeme-nathrezim]

i think the idea was to keep heroic population a bit higher so hypercasuals don’t have to wait 2 hours in queue.

But hypercasuals probably hate those 600k tanks even more

[Gizolfi-sentinels]

This, pretty much. It gives people a reason to run heroics. Since I’m staying as far away from mythic dungeons as I can, I’m perfectly fine with that weekly in its current form.

[Adarinnia-stormrage]

it should just be normal/mythic or heroic becomes mythic 0 tbh and mythic 0 is eliminated.
They arent different enough to be separate. Also this lets us do a qued dungeon for a key.