Feral Druid Update

That’s great but can you give everyone what they want before its too late?! Dual Spec please. Don’t let this be another chronoboon situation where we get it 2 weeks before wrath.

In terms of fixes that are actually achievable? Yeah.

I mean we probably will considering it’s a wrath feature and that’s probably how long a prepatch will last lol. We don’t NEED dual spec. Don’t get me wrong I personally would like it, but let’s not act like this is something the game is broken without

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I, too, comment aggressively about issues that I dont care about. I am passionate about my selective apathy.

…I’m not.

The bug fix was to the way resources affected all resources rather than just the resource getting an update. By fixing this bug, Ferals and Rogues can’t pop and cancel Minor Trollsblood Elixirs to get partial tics of Energy to smooth out their rotations (THIS IS A GOOD THING). However, by also fixing this bug, Ferals no longer reset their Energy regen timer when they shift, meaning Feral Energy works as it did in Vanilla/Classic as well as pre-2.2 TBC.

The act of powershifting was never in question even before this fix. You can powershift right now and take advantage of Wolfshead Helm and Furor, and the Devs here have explicitly given it a pass:

They didn’t crap on powershifting, they didn’t say they were going to curb its use, they simply said “Some players like it” and that’s that. That’s as good as a Blizzard endorsement as you’re going to get and it supersedes anything a past Dev has said. Powershifting is here to stay until the close of TBCC. In WotLKC we’ll see powershifting die, but it won’t be a big deal because Feral gets entirely revamped and becomes quite the powerhouse IF PLAYED PROPERLY.

They fixed a bug, they didn’t touch the mechanic, that’s that.

sum bear iz 4 dont care

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Appeal to authority is an informal fallacy, because it isn’t fallacious by FORM but only in certain circumstances of SUBSTANCE. In this case, it isn’t a fallacy at all. Blizzard is the final authority on what their game is or isn’t. I’ve never maintained otherwise.

If Blizzard says tomorrow:

“Warriors’ WW and Bloodthirst now scales 150% with Spell Power”

That’s that. We can complain and give feedback or whatever, but at the end of the day they get to make that call.

Your distaste for Blizzard or Activision notwithstanding, they are the authority and that’s just how it is, you signed a contract to that effect.

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I just snagged two [Underworld Band] for 20G each. Level 39 Warlock gonna be so happy.

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thank you for listening to the feral community. now the game will be much more fun for cat druids to play. we appreciate it.

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Now it will be much more fun for you to play. I hope this does not go south. I for one HATE the powershifting mechanic. Always have, always will. Just please remember not everyone plays the same or enjoys the same things.

And as @Notglinda said above. I hope this works as intended. But I fear it’s going to be a cluster you know what then all the ferals will be screaming about something they demanded changes for. We will see.

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What did the feral druid do to you minigun? Did he ninja some loot? Did he take your raid spot? Whatever it was, it’s not your fault.

It’s not your fault.

IT’S NOT YOUR FAULT.

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Gratz droods.

Well now expect it to be expected of you in a circle of guilds to play your class at what they deem “competent” despite it being slightly less mediocre DPS should you play Cat. Remember though, we bear druids always have a place you.

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Not at all. You can have trial by judge rather than jury, the judge can assess all facts and evidence, weigh them, and find you guilty and pronounce your sentence. You can only appeal for mistrial (you can declare all you want Michael Scott but it doesn’t mean anything) on the grounds that the judge abused their discretion in some material way.

Oh and getting tasered by order of the judge in the middle of the trial, even if it wasn’t entirely warranted, has zero bearing on whether a trial continues or is validly decided. The judge could literally step off the bench, walk up to you, and bite your nose, and he’d only get a few days of suspension (Not a hypo, real case).

A judge’s orders have the force of law, so no, you’re entirely wrong on this. That is what “common law” is, judge rulings that shape how future cases are and are not decided. That’s what SCOTUS does nearly every time they rule on something.

Irony.

This is a mostly safe place Minigun, we’re here to help!

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If you hate the powershifting mechanic then probably none of this stuff mattered to you in the first place. People who play cat druid who didn’t powershift shouldn’t be affected by this change at all… There may be a vocal minority who demand further changes but ignore them. Yes, a lot of cat DPS players were vocal about how energy ticks have been working in TBC classic. Yes, we had out genuine request to enable our playstyle heard and responded to. Isn’t that something good? The vast majority of cat DPS will be completely satisfied with only this change and want nothing more. Please ignore the rest.

My big question is: Has anyone tried it with parses on PTR? Does it actually fix the issues?

Here is the real question, Are people crying because they are losing massive amounts of DPS to inability to powershift. Yes it really does effect our DPS that much. OR, are they crying because they just love having to endlessly shift during mid combat forcing them to “watch” a man bar that even an addon is not capable of displaying to them during any form but caster? We can not reasonably use the wolfhead in 70 raids which makes powershifting half its energy to begin with.

All I am saying is, do druids need a biff or the ability to play more complex playstyles granting a buff. Personally I find powershifting to be a pain in the butt, but I am lazy and maybe not ask skilled as some of you. I’m curious how many regular players not forum people actually enjoy trying to track mana they cannot see. You guys on avg are not representative of the greater community. Your skill level is higher on avg. That is NOT debatable. You spend far more time studying the game mechanics. It should be noted that for many people success = fun. If it sucks they will not enjoy it. Which may be the real issue here.

I’m not asking for druid buffs. I am just saying plz don’t force me to do extra buttons for zero reason simply to buff me if what all these people really want is not buttons but buffs.

Nobody told me I had no choice but to powershift when I played TBC as a kid. And if this change goes through that will almost certainly be the consensus. We will be required to do it or laughed out of dungeons. Give you one guess what will happen to my druid then. Same shelf as yours is on currently. Along with thousands of others. Not that this is an issue for most of the people here on forum.

This is great news. While I don’t play feral anymore, I’m really glad the spec will be playable and fun again!

Lmao and about all the people that were here since launch of the servers? And its not only just horde complaining. Imagine being so salted cause your factions dead that you hope the other doesnt get a fix for ques, also nice touch posting on your retail toon :slight_smile:

There is a great druid addon to show your mana while you are in form. It’s called “Druid Bar Classic”. Check it out. Makes the Power Shifting experience much more fun when you can gauge your mana well.

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