Who is doing this? They die in 2 globals… Just kill them as they come out…
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Divine Storm is slightly better than Whirlwind already. So your wanting DStorm to be a carbon copy of Swipe is your admission that Swipe is better than both.
Now think of a melee with better AoE with you having confirmed the above. I can’t. Swipe is way outside anything available to any other melee class, regardless of spec.
Its busted. Damage number wise, its fine. Its the # of targets that makes it broken. Cap it at 4. Problem is solved.
i say we not only not nerf their damage but instead buff it (in the suppression room only) to aoe the entire suppression room all at once in 1 shot but not aggro the boss.
cause i hate the suppression room.
It’s just a mage salty they aren’t the only ones that do good aoe
Mage aoe isn’t capped
There is no problem, you are just crying wahhhh wahhh boo hoooo. I confirmed nothing I could care less how many targets divine storm hits.
Swipe is the only feral rune we got for level 60. It deserves to be strong.
Having only a third party understanding of swipe absolutely ive heard my druid buddy talk about how awesome it is and having uncapped hits on ds would make it a guaranteed exorcism reset
It needs to go back to 3 targets cap.
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Eh or just make it uncapped in bear form specifically so they still have good aoe threat, just like frenzied regen isnt broken in of itself but only broken bc it can be used in boomkin/treeform
ITT: Mages salty they lost their aoe monopoly.
4 would be fine. It puts it closer to par with WW/DStorm/Fan. Fan loses a lot of power from its damage penalty in exchange for being uncapped. If Swipe needs to be closer to Fan, it needs to come WAY down from 250% weapon damage.
i disagree with nerfing feral aoe from swipe as it hardly matters at all in pvp and would rather people be able to be powerful in pve .
the situations in pve that it is very powerful in are limited and most boss fights are single target anyways.
there is no reason at all to nerf swipe in pve other than people trying to compare epeens and coming out short.
please do yourself a favor and stop lobbying for nerfs to a mostly pve affected thing.
Thats the point. Its TOO powerful in PVE. It needs a target cap or its damage needs to come down. One or the other.
Only reason it’d be too powerful in PvE is your raid comp is lacking cleave and so your Feral is carrying you. All the trash absolutely falls over, press your buttons better.
It isnt about lacking cleave. Its that its aoe comparable to Mages on a melee. Aoe that blows the aoe capacity of all other melee away by a country mile.
Purely because it has no target cap. The damage is fine IF it has a target cap. If it remains uncapped it needs to come down.
If it “isnt a big deal” then nerfing it down to 4 targets “isnt a big deal”.
you have to admit it would “feel bad” if they nerfed it and would only be because someone else “felt bad” cause they couldnt measure up in a pve encounter.
there is no reason to nerf it and only in fact benefits your comp if you have a feral on aoe trash.
like really , of all the things to nerf , you guys want to nerf swipe?
are you serious ?
Feral is top aoe and one of the top single target classes. Warrior cleave is capped why not the same?
Or how about buff other classes aoe? If people are opposed to nerfing it. 20 man BWLs are taking 3 and 4 ferals. Thats the problem because then other classes get left to the side because of not enough dmg
again, its pve.
i do not care that feral are doing very well in pve and would rather people actually get buffs or feel powerful and wanted in pve.
anything that makes trash die quicker is welcome in my book .
If looking at DPS meters on trash is such an issue for peeps that it’s bringing up Swipe this is the answer. Swipe isn’t even a factor on logs unless you’re doing Sulfuron Harbringer or Majordomo, why is it some trash pulls in BWL that mean nothing are what brought this thread up?