I really wish they’d stop chopping up abilities on a spec-by-spec basis. Even the little things don’t make a lot of sense. No Deadly OR Mind-Numbing for Outlaw or Subtlety? It’s bizarre.
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My energy bar and the way our ADHD Red Bull infused Tanks run through do not at all match up.
I would like a faster energy tick.
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I meant that I’m waiting on the bugfixes & 11.0.5, but yeah I saw it and combined with the BTE bug, I might just go Sin for the time being
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Don’t comment much and purposely came here to see what other rogues were experiencing. Not an entirely happy bunch. Rogue is number 3 or four in my roster. I did really enjoy it from Cata to Shadowlands.
Shadow priest- FUN
Marksman Hunter - FUN!
Frosty Death Knight - Lots of FUN
Frosty Mage- Even More fun!
Subtlety Rogue- Seems to be a boring slog fest…it’s terrible. Big burst damage of old seems to have gone. Forever waiting for cooldown to proc before hitting with a limp wristed strike. It might be better once at 80 but levelling up is a real grind.
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i need faster energy regen, and it’s the kind of fix stacking haste procs cannot solve. it can help, but haste from gear doesn’t do remotely enough.
asn has talents to make things cost more energy, or consume extra energy to deal extra damage, but what we need are some talents to restore energy during our damage cycle. relentless strikes comes to mind.
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in other news, i love the bleed focus asn rogue- so much sudden demise. it’d be really nice if there was some sort of indicator on health bars for when it will trigger.
this season’s tier for asn rogues looks very bland and uninspired.
I’m still leveling, but using a very similar build. It’s been fun
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thinks back to 8.3 as that was the amount of haste needed to make Sin feel good
Nameplates these days do add a mark for execute abilities
Sub seems to top the meters tho
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Having a blast just doing PvE with friends and BgB
Regularly able to pull top or near top damage and kills. Deathstalker has issues in PvE but for pvp it’s pretty perfect.
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Rogue is very fun to play in group content, but soloing is still abysmal. Delves are a complete failure and unbalanced as hell.
Why is tricks on Brann only does so much. In a Delve like Underkeep you can’t do that because the final boss just stands in the death puddle and Brann also afks in it so you can’t damage the boss. Try to burst her down and you can’t because 800k melees, for some reason.
Seriously why is anyone able to take 25% HP from a melee swing?
Also remove the 2 points before Cold Blood and just move Cold Blood up the tree, please. So many of the upper rogue talents are useless
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I’m having loads of fun, assassination absolutely melts world questers and BG targets in a few seconds.
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sin has had its moments, bfa had a garrote tempest spam build that was sort of popular and at level with outlaw at the time, just lacked the cc outlaw brought. Sin was good in DF as well, specially once they added caustic spittle. This is definitely not the first time its been good in m+.
To me all the specs are okayish, medicore mostly but the removal of the extra 3yds of melee combined with how small hitboxes are on some of these bosses including raid are making me rethink decisions and possibly reroll, its REALLY fkn bad atm. On top of button bloat, mechanic bloat in raids, i have to have to do complex trigonometry to just hit a boss or hit some adds. This probably feels just as bad as season 1 shadowlands right now, just worse because the QoL of extended range is completely gone.
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Rerolled monk
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The stealth bug is about to drive me insane. Stealth is a core part of this class and all three specs have core rotational abilities tied around it, yet sometimes I just fall out of stealth. It’s annoying.
I tried playing Outlaw in PvP and I just can’t. I despise crackshot. I hate that talent, I hate the person who made it, I hate everything about it. I want crackshot GONE. I’m also so tired of the RNG in the spec.
Sin rogue is pretty good, I use it a good bit.
I haven’t touched sub much, but every sub I see in PvP is bottom of the damage charts, so I’m not excited.
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Trying to love my outlaw but is tough, crackshot, vanish and subterfuge should be banished from the realm, I mean, is it hard to get a truly outlaw playstyle instead of this subtetly wannable? We got not damage outside crackshot/vanish window…as an OUTLAW!!!
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I did delves last week and Brann completely ruined my interest in them. We obviously cant tank melees. Everyone was like “just tricks brann”. Ok. Do that thinking itll make everything smooth and this menace just kites the mobs away from me. I fought one boss and brann reset him 5 times before i was able to burst it down. No ty
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For PvP, Sub seems as good as ever. But, while the stealth bug has always been a thing, especially at the start of expansions, I don’t ever remember it being this bad.
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you cant stay in stealth in bgs 
even after vanish+cloak. stealth breaking in a second.
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wtb tank spec brann, amirite?
also, why is his brain so damn smooth? i would rather have him not attack at ALL as a healer, instead of constantly pulling random mobs and breaking my stealth while i’m trying to sneak around and do rogue things.
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I’m doing great on my Blood DK, Vengeance Demon Hunter, Disc Priest, Survival Hunter, Destro Warlock, and WW Monk. Thanks for asking.
Okay, but for real. I’m not enjoying rogue. Doing maintenance primarily. Raids, Delves, Quests, and professions. Im not pushing anything, because it’s not fun to do so. I lost love of rogue pvp and have done zero m+. I play Sub. I thought about switching to outlaw or assassination. I don’t really enjoy either.
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