HST was moved to Resto only because the real healing it provided was not ‘utility’, it never saved anyone and amounted for less than a % of total overall healing in a raid setting.
We have Cata Classic to prove that:
classic.warcraftlogs com/reports/4Pw1kgaBcjmYdN9T#fight=27&type=healing
As you can see, the Ele shaman’s HST provided 34k total healing over Omnotron, which has a lot of AoE. This accounted for 0.2% of the group’s healing. Troll racial does more healing than this.
Want to pipe in and also say that many of us really enjoy Primordial Wave and the fast-paced, setup-based, short-cooldown playstyle it provides for Enhancement Shaman. The Season 3 (and Season 4) set bonus that put our Primordial Wave on effectively a 20 second cooldown for frequent funnel opportunities during raid and a big haste buff on every pack in M+ has been one of the most fun tier sets I’ve ever played with. Losing it will be a shame.
pls respond, how is this thing still invisible after like 10 yrs? pls update visuals or remove from game ty
Can you please reword your question? I don’t understand what you want me to argue.
Are you saying that totems are more useful than I’m saying or less useful?
Are you saying old totems didn’t provide good utility and the new ones do much better / comparable so their removal didn’t matter?
Both, actually. That old totems didn’t actually provide noticeable utility (such as HST for Ele/Enh providing less than a % of total overall healing) and that the new ones provide much stronger effects than the old versions.
you should be able to just make a macro like
/cast [@player] Surging Totem
and it will function the same as before
I’d say the talent tree is too limiting to activate multiple utility spells.
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Lest go shaman
It’s amusing how they call it a ‘hotfix’ in ‘beta’ for something that hasn’t even been patched yet due to poor public opinion. Honestly, I think Blizzard is just playing with numbers to quell public dissent. There are no staff members who properly understand the Shaman’s issues; if there were, we wouldn’t be in this situation. Let’s see what happens next week.
The wow dev that had shamans at the bottom of the list to make changes that were always set to be done before 11.0: “Yup, you sure did.”
It depends which point you’re talking about. Pre-MoP, Shamans were pretty much brought to raids because of the utility of their totems. They gave a lot of bonuses that made things better for the players.
The new ones don’t hold up in my opinion and we have far less of them.
Overall, Elemental Shaman has limited DPS situations where it excels, requiring careful selection for each situation. This makes the spec less desirable for late-stage raid bosses that demand adaptability to various scenarios.
All Elemental Shaman builds lack burst DPS.
Each build promotes spamming a single ability excessively.
Stat requirements vary greatly depending on the situation. If optimized stats are not achievable, performance drops significantly. This necessitates a large amount of gear, reducing situational adaptability compared to other specs.
Using Chain Lightning (CL) in AoE situations generates significantly more Maelstrom (MS) than single-target DPS, causing large discrepancies in DPS based on the number of targets.
Shaman utility is often a weaker version of other classes’ abilities, offering no special advantages. Even totem versions are less favorable compared to other classes.
To address this:
The talent tree contains too many similar talents granting additional LvB and many 2-point talents. Icefury-related talents also contribute to button bloat.
Proposed changes:
Shamans lack unique raid synergies, with only Enhancement offering any meaningful synergy currently.
Making Windfury Totem a shared ability and adding other useful totems would be beneficial.
The issues outlined have been raised numerous times and summarize community feedback. Regardless of the specific solutions, I hope these problems will see significant resolution soon.
Random but the earthquake animation needs another change yet again. Either show the entire animation on the ground for all players because currently its like a second and disappears but stays active for the player or kinda go back to the old animation but updated. If we continue to see Rain of Fire and Blizzard, why not Earthquake?
Also make it scale with haste again.
I saw the blue post yesterday and wanted to thank Blizzard and Kaivax for it.
I’m impatient for next week (but in same time, a little afraid for what it will be).
I was discussing with a resto about the totemic and his biggest fear was the random place where the totem will cast the Healing Rain. We were imagining to make the totem prioritize the tank or melee dps, but what came on the patch notes is good too.
About Elemental, I already gave my impressions and suggestions, and some gave very interesting and better ones too.
As a Lightnings enjoyer, I hope the Stormbringer heroic tree will bring more spells and visuals.
Well, that kinda depends on when pre-mop.
In vanilla - wrath, you used tremor totem, disease/poison cleansing, and windfury/Wrath totem, and became a bloodlust bot.
In Cata, shamans were taken a lot less outside of tremor utility since hunters and mages got bloodlust equivalents. Plus a lot of those older totems that people did use were replaced between Wrath and Cata.
The main reason I hate Ice Fury is that it doesn’t do anything itself. It just buffs other spells that I have to put on my bars. It would be a lot better if Ice Fury replaced Frost Shock.
No thanks, I enjoy the minigame of weaving Frost Shocks into my rotation. And I like having lots of buttons, so I don’t mind Icefury as an enabler for this.
Another small point of quality of life feedback for Enhancement Shaman: Please take a look at increasing the flame shock spread radius, especially from large mobs that seem to have small hitboxes. It’s sometimes impossible to spread flame shock with Lava Lash to nearby mobs, so increasing the spread radius would be a useful QOL improvement. A good example of this was Neltharion’s Lair first pull - flame shock could not spread from the huge mob to any of the small ones.
Cool ! I need the class in good shape before I make my earthen shaman 
On the cosmetic side, please update Ascendance’s visual. The current version has always been antithetical to what a shaman is supposed to be. Just bring back the glyph visuals from WoD. Windstrike looks lame, please bring back the Stormblast animation.
Please provide the option to disable the visuals of the three elemental shields.