Feedback - New Azerite Essences

(Nimox) #1


Heartzertauren can currently be found in the Chamber of Heart, and currently is selling items to teach you up to rank 3 of all of the new Azerite Essences. The Rise of Azshara Essences are also available for sale here.

While these new Essences should be functional, most visual effects on these new Essences are temporary, please keep that in mind with any feedback you may have. They will be getting new visual effects in a future PTR build.

(Salana) #2

Is this achievement: being modified with the inclusion of these new essences?


Make all Azerite Essences account wide!
This is so annoying and time consuming to re-acquire them on every alt…


Essences continue to be an intolerable grind for alts.

If you think this somehow increases time played you are mistaken: people are far more likely to log out and play something else than pick up an alt when the mountain to climb to be fully kitted out is several weeks long.

I can only assume that at this point, Blizzard are saving the BoA essence update for when 120 boosts are released after Blizzcon.

(Nimox) #5

This achievement will only require you to get rank 4 of all of a role’s Essences that were released in the Rise of Azshara update (patch 8.2). It should not become any more difficult to do with the addition of new Essences in this new patch.


Could we get clarification on how the new essences are meant to work?

Ion said in the video that it’s a new slot specifically for the new Visions of N’zoth essences, however in the ptr and in the build notes it’s been called out to be a minor slot.

#1 Is it just a matter of scrapping the former and the ladder being permanent or is it just placeholder?
#2 If it is placeholder will the new n’zoth slot be a minor or major for the new n’zoth essences
#3 If is placeholder will you be able to use the n’zoth essences in the other slots or just strictly the n’zoth essences in the n’zoth slot and the azshara ones in the other slots?

I assume it’s #1, but clarification would be greatly appreciated and greatly improve the level of feedback that can be given on the essences, as their interactions change heavily based upon how many major/mines we can use (ie 1 major, rest minors or 1 major azshara and 1 major n’zoth - etc).


(Salana) #7

Thanks for the update! It’s a long away goal for a lot of us (and one we probably won’t get) but it is something certain and very prestigious to go after. Will be fun to play with these new essences on the PTR.


Essences don’t need to be account wide, but they should be obtained easier on alts. For example, if you have one character with the rank 3 essence from mechagon and najatar rep then perhaps your alts could have a 200% increased rep gain from these zones.


Can we please buy rank 3 essence and send them to our alts? please? please? please? we’re still buying it, either with marks of honnor, essence, pearl, just… please. Like i understand it’s a grind, but for an alt it’s painful, I worked to get my conflict rank3 (I’m garbage at pvp, I hate it, but still did it), now I want to play a tank for m+, and have to do it all over again. I’d rather just farm the mark of honnor, buy it, send it to my alt. That would probably be the most satisfying change with an already awesome system (I love essences)


Please consider making essences easier for alts to obtain.

(Nimox) #11

The current plan is that the new slot is just a normal minor slot, there’s nothing special or restrictive about it.

(Salana) #12

I would venture to say that yes the grind is not really enjoyable right now (I am only playing one character, and that one not even well). But from Blizzard’s standpoint they really aren’t to give it all away for free. There are two ways they could do it. First, by making the essences BOA, and your main has to buy them likely at near their original cost. Or two by actually unlocking the essences account-wide but at a reduced level. However for that way, your alts are not going to get rank 3s and 4s just because your main has them. That ruins the identity of an alt (as Ion would say). I wager that if you get a rank 3 essence, all the characters on your account get rank 1. If you get a rank 4, all characters get a rank 2. However as I said and what Blizzard likely feels, they are not going to give you rank 3 just because you have it on one character. A form of a grind has to exist but hopefully one that isn’t too bad that you shutdown and quit because of apathy (I struggle with that one a bit at times).

Your commendation idea is great too. Like the commendations of MoP (which BFA is looking like right now lol). And we had those weeks with the extra black prince rep bonuses. I wish we could get a chunk of that time again. Maybe a consumable and not a set date, so we can play as we want, and not play the game like a job. Play it like a passionate hobby.

(Ghaghzull) #13

agree. some of BiS Essences require raiding or Mythic+ that lot work for your alts and will cost burn outs.


No, those are the easy essences to get on alts.

It’s the toxic follower xp or other time gated content that make it miserable.

Calling it a grind isn’t even wholly accurate because you can’t actually grind it, only work through the drip fed content until you’ve logged in for 1 hour to do mindless nonsense for as many days as Blizzard decide is sufficient.


Ah - Thanks. I was confusing the new minor slot and the endless progression slot.

(Ghaghzull) #16

No likes that type of a grind, that why they quit WoW.

(Makorë) #17

Can we change how the new essences work? Having to depend on a party isn’t good for people that like to go solo…if the Book of Knowledge could work randomly, it would be good


Can you directly communicate with the dev team that it is NOT fun to grind on alts. We know that more play time = a better review from your bosses, but to your customers it sucks to grind and grind and grind. Let them know BFA has killed alts.

If you can’t or refuse to tell them this they will never know.


Idk man, remember champions of azeroth rep? They made the neck ilvl increase from that account wide a patch after launch. It doesn’t need to be given to us for free, but making it a lot easier for alts is what would incentivize people to play alts and therefore spend more time playing the game.


An item level bump is a far cry from an essence (item) that directly affects your character’s power level.