FEEDBACK: Mists of Pandaria Class Changes

[Ironchain-faerlina]

@Brk-pagle

The crux of my issue is that every single healer in the game gets their respective hit or expertise cap by just getting spirit.

Seems like a good change to me.

@Mizore-pagle

Imagine being cringe enough to spend actual minutes of life to go check someone’s logs to find things to insult them with on an internet forum.

Your credibility is what is being challenged. Your opinion on what a Holy Paladin should be doing is easily dismissed when you’re shown to have no clue how to perform well on the spec.

Your preference for class design is acknowledged. You don’t want to be in melee as a healer. Unfortunately that is not, nor has it ever been what you’ll get from a Holy Paladin. The notion that SoD devs are coming in and changing the way your spec is played is ridiculous. You simply do not know how to play your spec, you don’t know how it was played in the past, and you don’t actually understand the changes your spec is receiving.

@Mizore-pagle

Tell me you never played HPal in vanilla without telling me you never played HPal in vanilla. The multitude of caster-punishing mechanics (e.g. PBAoE silences, stuns, interrupts) present on a majority of the mobs in end-game vanilla and BC make melee range a terrible (and often times, impossible) place to be for a caster generally speaking, and even moreso for the healing class/spec with the fewest instant-cast spells out of any healer.

Your default is to be in melee, auto attacking between casts to restore mana and to do more DPS. When the mechanics don’t allow for you to be in melee, you don’t. That is precisely what I, and others, said:

@Ironchain-faerlina

You’d be in melee, anyway, because you want to be casting Crusader Strike for Holy Power. You’re merely going to get more consistent Holy Power generation and better mana regeneration while auto attacking between casts. If you can’t afford to move that much, then don’t.

@Ironchain-faerlina

You hard cast when you need to, move during the GCD of Holy Shock, Word of Glory/Eternal Flame, or Crusader Strike, and auto attacks trigger automatically because you should have /startattack macroed to your Crusader Strike.

@Ironchain-faerlina

The importance of meleeing is a lot lower back in vanilla and TBC. It was one of those “why not?” things, like Resto Druids meleeing for Omen of Clarity procs.

@Mizore-pagle

even moreso for the healing class/spec with the fewest instant-cast spells out of any healer.

I don’t know why you think this matters. You can cast in melee. This isn’t D&D; there’s no attack of opportunity triggered by casting in reach of the boss. The boss is not moving nearly as much as you think it is, and you can simply finish casting then move back into melee range.

@Mizore-pagle

You shouldn’t masquerade as a veteran…

I’ll just quote my other character to save myself the trouble.

@Ohshiftson-area-52

I’m only going to respond to this once. I’m posting on this character so you can check my armory.

Achievements → Legacy → PvP
Verifiable proof that I played in vanilla.

@Mizore-pagle

…or expert of something that you aren’t

I am an expert, actually. But even if I weren’t, I’m not wrong.

Also…

@Mizore-pagle

Unlike yourself, I don’t require the belittlement of others nor the defense or espousal of my own playing ability to maintain a positive sense of self-worth.

Have some self awareness, would you?

@Mizore-pagle

I more than likely won’t respond or continue reading this thread at all

Please don’t.