Feedback: Brewmaster Monk

esp for master of harmony the tier flows extremely well, energy spending on shado-pan feels much better too since you arent wasting more gcds on no energy from the free kegs

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The tier eats up a lot of GCD’s. On single target boss fights you will have a theoretical cpm cap of 19 BoKs, and when the set procs you spend the next 6 gcd’s casting BoK - > TP → BoK → TP → BoK → TP

God help you if it procs while you’re trying to push your WoO stacks up

BM Monks need a big boost to their damage output capacity, imo. It should be brought in line with that of the Paladin tanks (and I say that for ALL tank specs tbh). We could start there. Cuz keeping the BBM monk as it is BUT adding a 50-60% increase in their damage output would make them infinitely more viable in both raiding and M+ situations.

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If they made Nizuo baseline instead of being way off in egypt, taking 2 extra talent points (which we can hardly afford to lose given that so many of our talents are used to get things that are REQUIRED for brewmaster to function) we’d probably see a modest 3-4% damage increase for Brewmaster, as well as giving us a somewhat okay cooldown to use on trash pulls in M+

it just really needs reworked, its such a useless ability and even if you full spec into it damage wise its sub 2% overall. have tested it a few times in higher keys for fun

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Continuing the discussion from Undermine(d) Development Notes:

beat me to it.

Its a really nice change, and one I suggested before. Now you can reach max stacks for Cele Brew much easier in high keys, with only 2 PB’s at red stagger to reach it.

Yep, the question for me being… CB is underwhelming as is, and while I appreciate the quicker building of stacks, they really need to increase the base effect past +210%.

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Still alot of problems past CB is a tiny bit better

6 x 35 is 210%

Its a 5% buff at the top end. Still, being able to always have a max or near max CB ready is a great change, especially with MoH. With Shado-pan its not as noticeable because in high keys you’re almost always at 10 stacks.

However, this helps a lot with bosses that have weak overall damage and big tankbusters, like Dawnbreaker first boss, where having to stack up PB’s from green stagger to survive the tankbuster is necessary.

Thanks. I did it very quickly in my head, and I multiplied the 5 by 3 instead of 6. Me dumb.

I AM JUST HAPPY THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BREWMASTERS EXIST

This is also a really good change for lower keys where you are usually at yellow stagger.

Blackout combo grants you 3/6 stacks. Hope that they don’t remove that interaction

Change to CB is decent but CB is overall still too weak, at 660 ilvl its a 5 mill shield at max stacks on ptr (will go up w/ stat changes) which is significantly less than half our hp.

Bug’s w/ set still aren’t fixed so can’t test things properly (3 weeks in btw)

Itemization issues need looked at too, there is a LARGE lack of versatility on gear this season especially from M+ and our tier as well as way too much haste. Would like a tier re-stat so it’s not so weighted in favor of MW and WW. We have 4 pieces of tier with haste on it right now, vs the 3 on live and we end up losing crit overall even though we gained 40 ilvls on our tier

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Also beating a dead horse but Niuzao has no excuse not to be reworked or massively buffed at this point, it’s been complained about since Dragonflight beta that it’s extremely weak and not even worth the point to spec into it. You only used it in DF cause you were forced to take it to progress the tree. Please fix the ox

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This meme still applies and hasnt changed but at least we in the pool for once!

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I’d prefer them at this point to re-work something about Brew so haste is actually valuable which would make tier as a whole easier to make work for all 3 specs. Going forward now that haste is good for MW and WW it is always going to be a problem for stats on tier for BM unless they do something about haste on BM imo.

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Do hope you guys get some love.

agreed, its the only outlier and they could make it fit around keg smash or blackout kick since blackout kick is more and more becoming the focal point of our kit

OMG they actually did a slight change to our mitigation. Now we would like to see some more updates to match the other tanks.