I’m saying they are not lowered in PvP lmao. It’s probably just some modifier from the past expac. I’m not gonna dig through 4 years of changes to find it
There’s a reason everyone but you in this thread is talking about how these pve changes will effect pvp
what is up with this Warrior buff, come on they didnt need the help lol.
Good small changes that the community had been asking for.
But the arms warrior buff…?
MM is in a good spot
Kind of response I was expecting.
You right. I’m completely clueless on these changes my man. Disregard me. Was just trying to help out XD
Yea me either. Its just odd to buff a spec instead of reverting damage reductions in a PvP environment. Kind of stumped myself.
i mean he’s not wrong. these are overall buffs mostly for pve. unholy is currently one of the best pve specs so not likely to get an aura buff.
Arms and fury are both sort of not great in the raid env (but their battleshout is good). This buff is probably in response to their raid logs.
Jumped in mid convo. Was referring to some observations i had about my spec. Buff to Arms is what kind of got me on track to my current reasoning because arms can put it out in PvP but probably not in PvE as well.
Ah misread then.
I know this impacts PvP, but these are 100% PvE changes.
based on data demo seems to be doing good in pve, still garbage for pvp tho with it being a warlock so low surv and trash dmg since its demo
Those are some seriously LAZY changes.
Hey thelle, think these buffs will make sin more viable in arena?
I’m sure they’ll offset some of them for pvp when they post the official notes Tuesday
That’s their usual routine
Damage buffs are irrelevant to sv the pet is most of the issue.
Small tweaks are great!!
Missing pvp changes so maybe we will get some tweaks to ret/convoke.
Even with the pet buff pets still flop 
Wrong forum, bud.