FDK PvP feels better to play but seems a bit worse then before

In SL and the Start of DF we could kill in our stun silence combo. Now that we are more sustain base this feel near impossible is we don’t have a MS on our team.

I know this is a story as old as time but i think its actually time to just make razorice have a stacking heal cut. 3-4% per stack. This would open the door to us playing more comps and being more self sufficient in Shuffle.

Also unerf EWR haste buff now that unholy doesn’t have it. Pillar is also still 12% which is half pre buffed amount of 24% that stacked with spending runes.

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I much preferred the relentless damage version of FDK before it became a 1min setup and go spec.

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I was thinking the same why in the world is it nerfed still? Multiple classes have 15%+ haste buffs, shamanism, PI, DH meta, mages proc time warp plus icy veins and so on. I’m 632il or so in pvp and FwF hits for like 100k what a joke. Its not even that great of a utility either it’s only a 3s stun. Warlocks, monks, DHs Warriors, evokers and maybe even more that I’m missing either have a shorter CD or longer duration AOE stun. Please blizzard let it hit for SOMETHING. Doesn’t need to be broken and do 4m or anything, but at least a decent chunk for a 1.5m CD.

Yeah lab on ms is definitely felt, and really hinders kill potential in 2s. A PvP talent that added MS to RI stacks would be nice.

And yes please remove ERW modifiers. So not needed anymore.

In DF ERW was also in the class tree so unholy could take it. I 100% believe that that it was nerfed in PvP purely for unholy because unholy assault already gives them a huge haste steroid. Now its not in the class tree and FDK is missing the haste CD that makes it goes possible. It doesn’t only need to be un nerfed we need a PvP talent that gives another charge of it.

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Couldn’t agree more, dude there are SO many abilities nerfed in PVP for DKs especially frost. I’ve counted for DK it’s over 20 abilities nerfed for pvp in its entirety. They need to revisit DK pvp modifiers.
EDIT: just counted them on drustvar, across all 3 specs there are over 40 nerfed talents. For frost the only capstone that isn’t nerfed is obliteration. FwF, Reapers mark, Exterminate, all nerfed in PVP. Unholy like half of the tree is as well. Same with the DK class tree almost half of the talents are nerfed in pvp

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Pretty much a matter of healers becoming spikey “oh crap” lifesavers where specs that can’t nuke in one go during a heal cc basically have no kill potential.

Frost needs a mortal strike if it’s going to be an all-in target sticking bruiser, and it has the same problem ret does now.