no, say between the launch of wrath of the lich king and into BFA. so no, not just in Vanilla.
actually in vanilla and BC racials favored alliance, with stuff like Fear Ward, Sword Specialization on humans, etc.
the problem is that this issue went on for so long that many top alliance guilds transferred to the horde (Including the current #1 guild in the world), and created a massive snowball effect.
that is why it is being discussed.
I mean- One minute you are going off about racials being OP, then use a blizzard quote that you turned and contradicted and then went on about a band hired by blizzard that did questionable things at a convention.
But sure. If that in real life band is evidence that blizzard is “biased in game”- umm. Have at it, I guess.
Doesn’t matter if “all” the best players are already horde. You have to have a big reason to leave that community for an objectively lesser one.
No. Its the bandwagon that people are jumping. Too much one on side of the scales. The damage is already done.
How? ActiBlizz will never offer some kind of free faction swap.
okay now tell us. you have had 10 years of top guilds and players and anyone else transferring to horde because of the racial advantage. 10 years of it.
so now, that racials are largely balanced, its better, but what incentive do those guilds have to come back to alliance?
why should they? after all the overwhelming majority of the recruiting pool is still horde players.
oh i agree completely, just the way you worded your post made it appear this wasn’t the case.
It’s a hard question
What do you incentivize mythic raiders with? Cosmetics? Gold? Seems like almost everything you could incentivize them with they already have.
Why are you asking me? They posted the quote and I am asking them why they used the quote as evidence for their position and then contradicted it and said it was wrong.
this would only lead to further homogenization.
except you would need to do more then that. you would have to get a good chunk of the top guilds to go from horde to alliance in the first place to get an actual effect. otherwise no one would take it because all the recruiting pool is still horde. they would be putting themselves at a disadvantage going to alliance, unless we actually had some guilds agree before to go alliance.
The population has already shown us what the strongest incentive is. The faction that better enables access to higher end content and “better” players.
I don’t think an incentive is what the solution needs. It’ll take some kind of semi-altruistic reasoning to trigger an exodus effect at this point IMO.
Your data is off. A lot. Yes, we outnumber the alliance. Your fanfic idea that its a myth is just lazy research on your end.
Got server merged with another alliance heavy server only to get CRZ’d and now sharded as well to what seems as horde heavy zones…GJ Bliz.
the racials are and were the root cause of the problem.
are racials balanced now? mostly.
is there incentive for horde to go back alliance? no.
Reposting this so others can see just how big the imbalance is
According to WoW progress current mythic raid tier (world wide i belive)
1 Ally guild in the top 20
14 in the top 100
3v3 arena above 2k rating US realms
77.5% Horde
22.5% Ally
Keep reading then, because I outlined my system idea.
It would have to be combined with better tools for cross-faction guild applications.
I read your post, every word. Sorry, don’t see a solution there IMO.
See, now this is the opposite of the lazy research that the other guy did. If only people would stop taking every critism of the game as a personal attack. Facts matter.
Erm- huh? But you said
So everyone is either very confused or just wanting to argue over semantics for no other reason than to see who can be the bigger victim.
Racials> Balanced.
/thread
Careful, I bet you could get mass reported and temp banned for that =p
And don’t forget the M+ leaderboards.
They’re actually really, really interesting because the moment you get to a realm like Proudmoore that has a roughly even faction balance the leaderboards look completely healthy. You get a good mix throughout the leaderboard of red and blue. So, the Alliance is perfectly capable of being competitive when participation rates are even.
However, flip on the aggregate boards on raiderIO, and you see a completely different picture: red as far as the eye can see with little spots of blue here and there.
It takes going down past page one-hundred fifty-thousand before you start to see any kind of parity between the factions, and as far as I’ve been able to see, there isn’t anywhere where the colors reverse what you see at the top.
So it’s not a case that the alliance just suck. Proudmoore proves that.
The problem is that we’re just not playing the game.
Realmpop is a horrible site with flawed, inaccurate data that is, to my knowledge, never, ever purged. RaiderIO’s data is updated weekly and sourced directly from Blizzard.
The problem is far worse than anyone is saying outside of, basically, you and me.
I didn’t. I mentioned M+ in the original post but those leaderboards take a lot more effort condense the data down.