Faction imbalance

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

I wish we could also have proper PVP Gear for PVP instead of people having to do raids or Mythic+ where they overpower in PVP.

[Akston-area-52]

@Zoumz-zuljin

I wish wpvp was just about honor and conquest and have cosmetics rewards. Like in Legion, we had brawls wqs and tower wqs that made it so honor cosmetic rewards were earnable in world content

People used to get really mad if you actually PVPed at the tower WQs.

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

That’s fine, that’s part of the fun. I killed a lot of people with the free-for-all bird item. Fun days. Also as a blood dk, so be sure I got extra salty comments.

@Saraslam-frostmourne

I wish we could also have proper PVP Gear for PVP instead of people having to do raids or Mythic+ where they overpower in PVP.

I feel the wod pvp gear system was best or close to the best we need to have.

[Saraslam-frostmourne]

@Zoumz-zuljin

I feel the wod pvp gear system was best or close to the best we need to have.

Oh, there was no arguing that.

[Vasdin-area-52]

@Rhielle-sentinels

I have never had an issue doing anything I want as Alliance.

You can have an opinion on that when you reach the level cap. Nobody has ever had that issue while they were questing.

[Quenya-shadow-council (Quenya)]

@Kettilbjorn-kilrogg

get ganked 2 on 1, 3 on 1, 5 on 1

Play in a group.

I’ve noticed Alliance seems to want to solo pvp while Horde generally like to travel in packs. Perhaps learn from them.

[Vasdin-area-52]

@Quenya-shadow-council

I’ve noticed Alliance seems to want to solo pvp while Horde generally like to travel in packs. Perhaps learn from them.

That’s not what the Horde whiners say…

[Smartdeath-faerlina]

This is why free for all pvp will always be the better model.

As long as wow has been out there has always been the population imbalance.

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

@Vasdin-area-52

You can have an opinion on that when you reach the level cap.

It’s cute how you think this is my main. Fun fact to counter your snark: Blizz stuck me on this character when the new forums launched and I wasn’t swapping to re-grind forum rep. So here I stay. Now if you have nothing useful to add… shoo.

[Vasdin-area-52]

@Rhielle-sentinels

It’s cute how you think this is my main.

You’re the one posting about “not having a problem” on a sub-cap rogue. At least my forum alt is level capped.

[Chiangzhao-gallywix]

@Kettilbjorn-kilrogg

This game is a joke as alliance.

I dont think so. And there is no evidence of that.

[Averyx-quelthalas (Averyx)]

@Rhielle-sentinels

And I’ve found it very easy to get anything done that I want to.

You say this but…

@Rhielle-sentinels

People need to stop relying on LFG tools and start making friends, communities, guilds like so many of us do.

You say that.

What if I don’t want to make friends and I want to rely on LFG? then it’s not easy to do what I want to do as Alliance, is it?

Sadly Blizz ruined the game for Alliance, I’m not going to placate their failures. Saying “everything is fine” is also not helpful because devs need to know they have to do something.

[Bourbonboxer-lightbringer (Bourbonboxer)]

@Kettilbjorn-kilrogg

Against overhwelming odds is an insult - give it some worthwhile rewards and maybe it might help.

It did, then it got nerfed and/or you outgeared its reward.

@Kettilbjorn-kilrogg

you get ganked 2 on 1, 3 on 1, 5 on 1, unless you pay at off times.

Welcome to World PvP.

@Kettilbjorn-kilrogg

If Blizz is going to make PvP have such an impact on PvE progression,

It really doesnt. You can progress fine without War Mode (ESPECIALLY RIGHT NOW) and dont need to AOO. All they are is alternative opportunities to garner gear and experience other than the mainstream way.

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

@Vasdin-area-52

At least my forum alt is level capped.

“I have nothing useful to add, so I’ll just add nonsensical childish banter that has nothing to do with anything.”

@Averyx-quelthalas

What if I don’t want to make friends and I want to rely on LFG?

People who rely solely on LFG and not friends and communities do nothing but complain on BOTH factions about “I can’t get groups!”

@Averyx-quelthalas

Sadly Blizz ruined the game for Alliance

Didn’t seem to ruin it for me or my friends or most people I know on Alliance. I fail to see how they ruined anything. People swapped when they drooled over what some championship Mythic teams did. That’s not Blizz’s fault when the community did this to themselves.

[Averyx-quelthalas (Averyx)]

@Rhielle-sentinels

People who rely solely on LFG and not friends and communities do nothing but complain on BOTH factions about “I can’t get groups!”

That is completely false, horde has a lot more groups than the Alliance and there isn’t the same complains at all.

@Rhielle-sentinels

Didn’t seem to ruin it for me or my friends or most people I know on Alliance. I fail to see how they ruined anything. People swapped when they drooled over what some championship Mythic teams did. That’s not Blizz’s fault when the community did this to themselves.

You are pretending this happened in a vacuum, there’s a reason why teams swapped and why the trickling down effect exist, is not just people following Mythics for no reason. Even at the most basic levels like mount collecting, Blizzard has given horde the advantage this expac.

[Sekirra-proudmoore]

I agree with Rhielle here, I play both horde and alliance, and I got no trouble finding groups on Alliance side.

People just saying “alliance is dead” is a meme at this point, most people saying that dont even play alliance enough to even say that.

But ya, go be horde and mythic raid which apparently all of you do.

[Rhielle-sentinels (Rhielle)]

@Averyx-quelthalas

That is completely false

You’ve been around these forums longer than I have. We see those threads all the time and they come from both factions.

@Averyx-quelthalas

there’s a reason why teams swapped and why the trickling down effect exist

Anything can be done on either faction. People chose to follow a fad.

[Battywash-area-52]

i play both factions, and any time i see these posts come up i notice more people going to horde side. now not in massive numbers, but newer players will see this and be scared to join alliance or maybe they havent even subbed yet and wont because they wanted to play alliance and now they see 50 threads with 200 ppl saying “alliance has no chance”

[Fenñeko-mannoroth]

Just join the horde we are much cooler anyway if you ignore all the belfs UwU

[Battleshout-stormrage]

@Kettilbjorn-kilrogg

This game is a joke as alliance. You either play as a second class citizen getting diminshed rewards, or you get ganked 2 on 1, 3 on 1, 5 on 1, unless you pay at off times.

Against overhwelming odds is an insult - give it some worthwhile rewards and maybe it might help. If Blizz is going to make PvP have such an impact on PvE progression, they HAVE to do something to make PvP remotely fair between the factions.

Easily one of the worst things about the game.

I think your server grouping is to blame not the faction. I am on stormrage and dont experience any of the stuff you’re talking about.

For the most part in war mode our faction is normally dominating especially on Tuesday. Tuesday just about anywhere you go in war mode is all green titles any red titles I see are normally already dead or in the process of being hunted down by multiple alliance doing their AOO.

I have characters on both sides and I will tell you did I find it a lot easier to get a group for World PVP on Alliance than Horde. Horde love to group up for PVE but when it comes to PVP and you ask for a group for things you tend to get the standard teenage response of “get guud”.

Yes there have been days where there’s a lot of horde in an area and I have opened up the group finder created a group called “Killing Horde in (my zone name)” and my group fills up in no time and we wipe all the horde in the area. To be honest if you are not using the tools you have at your disposal you have no one to blame but yourself

I know I’m just a casual PVPer but I live in warmode on and I enjoy every aspect of world PVP. Actually the quality of world PVP on Alliance is what’s making me faction change my horde toons to Alliance. I also do a lot of Battlegrounds during prime time and I would say I’m at about a 65% win ratio.

If you don’t believe me hop on over to the warmode forums in the pvp section and see how many posts there are from horde players complaining that we have the buff when they are constantly being camped.