Exploitative Gaming Industry Practices

So someone called you out and you evade? Ok I guess.

The statement is still true. Why a for profit company cannot use every tool legally available to generate profits? Why is this “exploitative” in your opinion? How is free market capitalism trapping you, unless you want to be trapped?

FFVII size: 1501 Mb.

FFXV size: 150 Gb for 4k textures.

I have a hunch that they could have fit it all in one even with the new graphics.

Actually iirc it’s mostly targeted towards games that are marketed towards children w/ RNG Loot Crates. Since the crates cost $USD and have random rewards, it’s being argued that it’s similar to gambling.

https://kotaku.com/u-s-senator-introduces-bill-to-ban-loot-boxes-and-pay-1834612226

From what I have read and heard SE is not even sure how many disc it will take. The game is going to be that huge it will literaly dwarf FFXV…

I’ve quit a time or two…they don’t cancel your account immediately they just don’t renew it next month…or wait, they do renew it one more time (a dirty trick I’ve noticed). So yes there is a “left over subscription thing” , the moment you cancel you get billed another month as a fare well gift.

:slight_smile:

On topic, I actually think WoW is better when it comes to being exploitative.

A good rule of thumb is to look at how much time you spend on something, and then how you feel about how you spent your time afterwards. Remember those old Facebook games that basically had ridiculously long wait times that you paid to get rid of? Those were the worst I’ve ever seen. I literally never heard of a single person say they enjoyed the time they spent on the game. They just had a compulsion they couldn’t control to play (and spend a lot of money on) the stupid Facebook game.

Heck, when it comes to the attention commodity, Facebook itself wins among almost every demographic. And almost universally everyone regrets the time they spend on Facebook. And that’s because Facebook is much better designed to exploit your psychology versus just being fun.

I still rarely run into anyone that actually regrets the time they spent on WoW.

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So the company is physically going to children and mugging them of their money? Wow the situation is a lot worse than I realized! I must get my torch and sharpen my pitchfork immediately!

FFVII:Remake is only a single $59.99 purchase I’m pretty sure?

You know this is pretty funny considering how you started this thread… Legion has all the things you hate in BFA since you specifically mentioned Titanforging (which is not same as loot boxes).

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I guess Lego is getting charged with assault soon as well. They sell mystery lego packs. 20 different ones to collect. But how can I tell which one is inside?

GAMBLING I TELL YOU, GAMBLING!!!

The united states is famous for things like corperations bribing state officials to make it illegal for towns to make their own internet providers, for example. Force them to come to the corporations, not do it themselves.

Would be an example of capitalism trapping me.

Aw shiz Lego? They might slap them with attempted murder. Them small lego pieces are sharp and kids could choke on them. It’s lego’s fault for making them so small and coloring them enticingly.

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Legion had its flaws sure, but the overall quality of the game was better.

  • Better class design
  • Better story arc

Everyone has their opinion I suppose.

True, unfortunately I fail to see how that applies to the gaming industry, but more importantly to ATVI’s practices? If anything, they have eliminated profits from their products.

There was a time when you had to buy EVERY expansion at full price, in order to play wow current. Now is just one time payment and you are in full BfA.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/06/e3_2019_how_many_parts_will_final_fantasy_vii_remake_be_split_into_not_even_square_enix_knows

Nah they are milking it more than starwars.

Exploitative behavior in this particular framing is a little different for me. It’s the game where you’re promised a fun experience except… wait… you only get to have fun for 2 days and then you hit a paywall where it’s nearly impossible to play the game without spending money.

This stuff truly exists in the industry. And I think extended it to nearly anything where the game companies try to make a profit is kind of over reaching.

A level games haven’t really increased in price a whole heck of a lot in the past few decades. However, the costs of creating them are significantly higher in both monetary terms and time investments. The game companies have decided to monetize other things to make up the difference. So long as those things aren’t required to play, I’m OK with it.

If game companies stopped using these things, games would be more expensive. So some people (with less self-control or just more investment in the game itself) finance the rest of our gameplay to some extent. I’ll never buy gold. But I have sold gold for gametime, so someone out there financed my gameplay to some extent.

I think it’s important to recognize where a game is over the line for you and I encourage you to not only not play that game, but to tell the publisher why you’re not a customer for it. But that line is your line. It’s not my line. It’s not Bob’s over there. Let me make the call for me. I’ll let you make the call for you. Just recognize that inflating things into hyperbole doesn’t necessarily make things truly as bad as those words try to make them out to be.

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First of all: Have a like, great post that no doubt many apologists/fanboys will dismiss out of emotion.

“It’s just alpha, they’ll fix it in beta”

“It’s just beta, they’ll fix it in alpha.”

“Dude, it’s only pre-patch.”

“The expansion just launched, relax, they’ll work on it six months from now.”

“What do you mean they didn’t fix the problem? They buffed an unrelated thing by 5%, it’s good now, they’ll overhaul it next expansion.”

“Dude, it’s just alpha.”

And repeat.

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This has been debunked several times, now. Have a sample.

Fits with a comment I made on another thread about how blizzard says their listening yet their actions say otherwise. They are basically doing what my 8 yr old does says he is listening when I tell him to do/dont do something and he does the opposite…

I dont have a sub…

I will play for as long as they let me. I soon will be dual account playing…

I have twinked 20"s 10 full bags and banks.
See ya up to 60 in game Tanking for you.

Edit 23 days later…
Now have a 6 mon. sub bucause had to have that mount… Thanks.