will you look at that!, well stated Vel!
A vengeance dh would bite the head off a dracthyr more efficiently than ozzy.
I hope we get some undead dracthyr as an “allied race” type addition, except they’re more of a physical dps archetype.
I dunno …. Blizz can’t even balance stuff as it is. In the pvp world there’s only one viable tank class that’s a bear. Every other tank is useless. Why throw down another class spec they couldn’t manage to do the math on? When things aren’t adding up blizz needs to learn how to subtract.
TRAP YOU ARE A LEGEND! thank you so much for fighting so hard to give evokers a tank spec. keep up the good work! I really dont see how a single person who doesn’t want an evoker tank is negatively impacted if they indeed get added to the game, like just dont play it and do whatever the heck else you were going to do with your life geesh.
I bet half these nerds will try it if it gets added in
I would like an evoker tank spec because I don’t play healers so currently evoker is a 1 spec class to me. I also like to queue tank for dungeons so I get priority queue and get pops faster. I also enjoy tanking. So for me, I would get more enjoyment and playability out of evoker if it had a tank spec.
Evokers shouldn’t have a tank spec because they don’t have the option for male characters.
thanks for the support <3
Technically nobody does anymore.
Evoker tank would not work.
The class talent tree would have to redesigned or many nerfs would have to come out to stop them. The amount if mobility and utility is too much to add to a tank and would make them thr best tank.
Ignoreing all the added mechanics needed to allow them to tank (how are they migrating damage? How are they holding threate?) The base kit is way to strong
No other tank has all of this:
Typhoon
Legsweep
Flying breath, cone that is a 3 second stun.
Flying breath, I-frames
Frontal cone mass root
An abilty to extend all the above cc by 50%
Sleepwalk cc, the target walks towards where you casted the ability, this allows for any tank buster mobs or inspirrd mobs to be pulled out of groups, solo killed, making every aoe pull safe.
During the animations to fly up, you can avoid some debuffs and cc. Timing your breath up/fly with tank busters abilites would allow you to avoid most attacks that are designed to kill tanks.
During the kite phase, tanks and dps complained on this forum. With such mobility and aoe control and cc, evoker tanks would be kiting mobs the entire time. This would be way too strong over every other tank.
Drac racials are just too powerful and would need to be nerfed to make tanks work and not be unbalanced
There’s no need for “new” arguments, the original arguments against evoker tanks are more than enough.
That’s the thing, though. Drac racials ARE GOING TO BE NERFED and the howls will be absurd because it’s so predictable what’s going to happen.
I’d prefer a melee spec.
Pretty sure it wouldn’t hurt the problem, mind you.
Or it could, because it makes the existing tanks less interesting to play, as Blizzard siphons off design space to create a new tank.
It’s what happened with DH’s, it’s what happened with Monks. There’s only so much tank design to go around, and Blizzard doesn’t even have enough to handle the existing tank classes.
Wasn’t a problem with vengeance demon hunters like a year into Legion. Saw more bears and dks, honestly.
Much like Demon hunters, it’s pretty limited.
A lot of people didn’t want to have to play an elf demon hunter. A lot won’t want to play the dragon class.
It looks horrendous to me and it’s required to play evoker.
Demon hunter and monk exist. There is no way they are that much worse.
so what you are saying is evokers shouldnt tank because their base toolkit makes them too strong as tanks? am i getting that right?
But they are
The mobility is higher, more group utility, stuns and group control on a shorter cd and more of it.
Monk base tree was designed to include stuff for MW and didmt include upgrades to racial abilities.
Evoker tree was created for caster in mind. Tweaking, and ajusting for tanking would be too much, as the racials are just too strong and enhanced in the tree even more
It would create a very uneven field compared to other tanks. No one else brings that amoint of utility.
To buff other tanks up to that level would become too strong. The best option would be mass nerfs to Drac racials and GD doesnt like that (see soar nerf)
Considering no one will be bringing their healer spec the only way bliz will be getting them into end game content is if they make them a broken tank.