Evoker's Short Range

Alright, I’ve had enough of your stupidity too. Welcome to my very small ignore list.

Ranged is ranged. I don’t care about your pedantic BS.

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I’m resting my case with this thread until someone can give me a legitimate reason why Evokers have to “pay” for their two charges of Hover with a 25 yard range, when BM Hunters get more mobility for free.

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Wtb 40 yards

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Oh for sure lol. When I say evoker Im referring to the other two specs.

I’m resting my case with this thread until someone can give me a legitimate reason why Evokers have to “pay” for their two charges of Hover with a 25 yard range

You’ll be waiting a long time, cause there isn’t one. And unlike what the liars above keep claiming, its not about wanting more strength, but simply parity with every one else. The game is designed wholly around 40 yards. That is fact.

So if dev and pres got 40 tomorrow, would the suddenly gain a ton of power? No. They would simply have the exact same potential as every other ranged and healer in the game.

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Why does everyone have this mindset that everything has to be constantly equitable in a game where things are usually far from equitable? If you like what BM hunter has so much, just play it. BM hunter is also a mechanics bot in raid that is rarely top tier DPS, historically.

PvP aside(which blizz hasn’t care about in literally over a decade), evoker range has not been an issue in any encounter so far. It’s not like there’s been a sludgefist fight where all ranged are grouped in a tiny pack far away from the boss. They’ve done an awesome job designing current encounters within the confines of the new spec.

It’s everyone’s prerogative to not like the range. There are also plenty of other options if they don’t like it. If you love the class so much that you’re playing it despite hating the range, you’re kind of doing it to yourself.

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79 days here. And I DO NOT like the short range on cast spells. Utterly pointless and it instills a sense of inferiority to other ranged classes. Near-sighted caster class with paper scales.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. They’ll eventually extend the range for Evoker, and when that day comes, I won’t thank them. I’ll tap my foot look at my watch and say, “about time.”

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That’s what I did with Diablo 4. I’m hoping they learned something from that.

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Afk hours :dracthyr_uwahh_animated:

but not every class in wow is for you. If you don’t like melee, the logical decision is to not play warrior.

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Lol nope, I’m rarely holding still in WoW. I do a lot of world pvp.

Your point? Evoker and is a caster, after all, not melee.

It’s not pedantry. Actually casting spells fundamentally changes how a spec operates. BM is ranged, but it is not a caster.

Rofl. Yes, the specs would gain significant power by arbitrarily being bumped up to a 40 yard range. The fact that you think they wouldn’t is proof that your understanding of this topic is kind of non-existent.

His point is that if you don’t want to play a mid-range caster then Evoker isn’t for you. If you want to play a long-range caster there are 9 other specs across 5 classes for you to choose from. What you want already exists, but instead of playing one of those specs you and yours are trying to deny those of us who enjoy the current Evoker design what we want. It is a wildly selfish stance that so far is mostly supported by belligerent buffoons.

If you just want to be a dragon the race is going to be opened up to other classes. If you enjoy Disintegrate and Fire Breath and others, that is unfortunate but it is also just the way things are. Every spec aesthetic is ultimately bound to that spec’s mechanical design. In Wrath I loved the idea of playing a Fire mage but hated how RNG it was, so I had to choose between suffering its playstyle or embracing a different spec aesthetic. 16 years later and Fire still has that core Hot Streak mechanic, but it has been made significantly better. That is what you can expect from Evokers, where we receive better support for working around and thriving with our limited range.

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If they increased the range for evoker, it would likely only be for 2-3 spells: Disintergrate, Pyre, and Living Flame. The charged spells would probably stay the same distance, since they are conical spells, or in the case of Deep Breath a rectangular AoE spell. Evoker would still have to move in for those casts and would therefor still qualify as mid-range. However, changing the above-mentioned spells to match conventional ranges would not somehow superpower the class, merely make dealing with mechanics outside the range of class-specific spells (charged spells) easier while still keeping the class identity.

For the record, I was opposed to the short-range from day one and yet I still love the class in spite of this critical flaw. I think that sums it up for just about everyone who mains the class outside a few, ahem, contrary types who fear that small changes will somehow ruin the experience.

The short and long of it is that they are overcomplicating an already unpopular class, and a simple (and highly requested) fix would be to simply allow for easier ranged gameplay for a class that is ENTIRELY ranged.

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The thing that a lot of people don’t realize, is that for every 5 people that won’t stop posting about tank specs or range increases on the forums, there are thousands of people that thoroughly enjoy the spec and realize that the range is completely fine.

The vocal minority on these forums has people convinced that things are actually issues for the larger populace, when they aren’t.

I don’t understand how ‘overcomplicating’ and ‘some people can’t get over the range’ are the same thing here. There’s nothing complicated about the range in PvE, specifically nothing for the dps specs.

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Working, yes. Completely fine is another matter. There are already several examples above that disallow the term “fine.”

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You mean aside from the fact that we’ve been strong for literally the entire expansion, and no fights have been designed that make the range a hinderance?

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Tell us you don’t play Preservation without telling us.

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Strong…Where you playing in season one when they reworked their brand new class? It’s still a work in progress and the single greatest request that I’ve seen regarding all specs of the class is…

Finish the sentence for me.

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Tell me you didn’t read my posts where I explicitly stated I was talking about dps specs without telling me.

I don’t typically go out of my way to read what morons have to say, sorry.