Evokers need to be nerfed urgently

I shoot at their wings when they are flying around.

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What makes them feel ticklish

Between their toes they are really sensitive

No thank you. All healers need to be brought up to evokers standards.

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After a lotta matches I gotta agree that evokes seem to have some meaningful advantages over other healers

It’s ok everybody. MW got a nerf.

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I saw that. They didn’t want cocoon to be on a shorter cooldown in PvP. Pretty sure Mistweavers will still take that pvp talent regardless

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I mean, yeah. The Chrysalis PVP Talent is pretty much a lock-in for most things. What I don’t really get is why they’re nerfing MW’s Chrysalis PVP Talent over any of the other million things that need to be looked at right now. I’m guessing a dev playing a Rogue or something went against a MW and Cocoon came in clutch. :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

Same reason they nerfed brewmaster in PvE. Just kind of throwing out nerfs and buffs without thinking twice. In no way did they need to nerf the talent. Potentially in the future it could become too strong but atm no

Considering our damage is garbo in arena, we literally can be kited to death with our impressive 25yrd range lol

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I don’t really know how it’s going to suddenly become stronger. The thing that gets me about it is that MW’s don’t have a lot of big CDs as it stands. Making it take 15 sec. longer to get Cocoon back is going to feel pretty bad in this meta.

I honestly think part of the issue is that the devs are trying to push a PVP Fistweaving idea - hence the recent buff to AtotM in PVP and the new Fistweaving talents replacing Bonedust Brew, et al. The problem is that PVP Fistweaving is never really going to be a thing with MW’s being as squishy as they are. I mean, if we’re out of position, we just die. Ironically enough, the PVE players are the ones excited most about the new Fistweaving talents. I can’t help but think that this is the reason they nerfed the Chrysalis PVP Talent, even though we’d still need Cocoon if we were PVP Fistweaving. :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

Edit: Oh, yeah - and BrM needs help. I tried to Tank some stuff as BrM and it felt like hot garbage by comparison with every other Tank.

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If we’re talking 3’s, the only time I was ever able to pull off fistweaving was when Mistweavers had immunity to stuns. Once that went away, they were way too prone to be swapped to and die. In 2’s they can fist weave more safely in a healer/DPS mirror but again not all the time because even one melee and a healer can create a lot of pressure atm.

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Yeah. I meant 3’s and even RBGs. In 2’s, PVP Fistweaving (with a melee partner*) has always been possible… but, that’s pretty niche.

It’s a shame because when fistweaving is viable that’s when I have the most fun as a mistweaver. I’m already thinking of leveling a resto druid right now

I mean, you can still Fistweave in PVE, 100%; in fact, Fistweaving is considered the best way to play PVE MW.

Lol a DH complaining that a class needs to be nerfed…

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We can do plenty of dmg honestly. Even outside of dragon rage we can put some pressure. (Yeah we aren’t spriests or locks but we can still do some decent dmg)
But I will agree with our range, and if someone is pillar humping it can def be difficult to get some things off. There are ways to deal with that though.

If your damage is garbo, or if you’re being kited as the evoker (with the exception of maybe mm hunter), you’re literally playing wrong.

Lmfao ok bud, the easiest target in ANY arena is a devoker, the shortest range of all the caster by 15yrds, they’re easily out ranged by ANY other ranged class… We have fire breath eternity surge and deep breath all of which are easily dodged simply side stepping lol… We can’t use ANY defensive cd while stunned, our root is breakable by a single ability or dispelled, our self healing is non existent with how dampening works, living flame does garbage damage as well as crap self healing, pyer is a joke to cast in how the animation works… What we have 2 charges of hover? Ok so now I just flap around aimlessly while casting disintegrate? Tell me you don’t know what you’re talking about with out telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about

If you’re kill target as devastation, its because you’re trash. Theres a reason you’re barely 53% win rate sub 1k cr and actually only 45% round win rate in solo shuffle lol.