Scanning both herbs/mines on the minimap at the same time, without switching. For the few of us that have dual gathering profession, this would be a godsend. Yes there’s the “TrackingSwitcher” add-on, but it’s not perfect. Having it the way it was implemented in Cataclysm (for reference) would be ideal.
Sell enchanting velums on an NPC vendor (for TBC, already ok in WotLK). This should be very easy and effortless to put in as well, and makes selling enchants MUCH easier… It also makes it alt and guild friendly…
Those two on top of what you said would be pure bliss… And in no way, shape, or form alter the game pacing/balance we love so much in TBC, and soon WotLK.
Quality of life changes to the game. Such as looking for dungeon, achievements, dual specc, and even transmog is not what makes retail “Retail”
It’s the unnessessary overhauls of systems, the unnessary pushes to force week-by-week time gated grinds, it’s the artifact systems, the legendary “Systems” the conduit “Systems” the essence “Systems”.
It’s all the ridiculous systems, the blockades to progress, the awful story telling, and pruning of everything…
I feel like the people whom are saying these people are dragging the game to be “Retail” have no idea what actually makes retail “Retail”
They just look at things that exist on retail and just automatically assume that’s what did it. It’s not, by the way, the QOL systems that make retail “Retail”
I wasn’t going to respond to one of these threads because they are so very much the “back in my day” attitude the boomers throw around.
I was there in Vanilla, still have my original toon somewhere around here as well. It wasn’t built around community at all. Not if you’ve ever played any other MMO and know what an MMO built around community is actually like. There were more than enough of us who ran solo for much of our early WoW careers, only grouping with others when absolutely forced to do so, i.e., raids.
Minor updates won’t turn this into retail. Retail became retail because of bloat and age. It’s a 17 year old game. Any game after that length of time will turn to crap when comparing it to its original state. It’s the boomer mindset.
Was awful in Vanilla also tbh.
The story didn’t start getting remotely interesting for me until Wrath, coming as someone who is a hardcore fantasy nerd. BC had its moments, but they didn’t want to go too deep into Draenor lore.
Classic had the excuse that it was the first expansion and they were not using all their previous storylines from the WC3 games because they were saving some for expansions.
Many of the zone story lines were not that bad in classic, also it was made what? 15+ Years ago at that point? The writing team was still getting into their stride for MMOs at that time, and some jank could be forgiven. (It’s the kinda forgiveness people generally give to games just starting out as long as quality improves, which it did up until Wrath)
At this point though WoW’s been an MMO for… what? nearly two decades now? There is no longer any excuses that can be given. Vanilla was okay, TBC was decent, wrath imho was when they hit their peak.
Yeah, the story should have gotten better and better. But it isn’t like they had an extensive bench of lore they could follow up on. A lot of it post Wrath is basically throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks.
Yeah and they’ve made some pretty poor choices along the way, which is why I dislike retail’s story.
It’s simply gotten ridiculous, so many plot points just abandoned, fixating on characters that do not need the fixation. The massive ignoring of other characters that could use character development. The antagonism the story tellers seem to sometimes feel like they need to inject towards the players? Nah. miss me with that
To start I’ll agree that there is some truth to this, outside of your unnecessary and childish name-calling. The bloat and age do matter.
That was your experience only.
There are more than enough that didn’t play Vanilla like you, but your playstyle and desire for single-player gaming then does explain why you still enjoy Retail today.
I will in no way say that WoW is the most community-driven MMO that was ever designed. However, Vanilla was built around what other MMOs were built around at that time period, with the community being part of it. Just like the old MMOs. Even though it was designed to be more “casual” you were still encouraged to group at times.
Therefore you run into the same people randomly and you end up making friends who sometimes join your guilds etc. It’s not being constantly surrounded by strangers from other servers etc and using a button to do everything where you get judged only by a number score, by people you will probably never see again. That’s pretty much a fact.
As someone who played WoW since release and kept playing the game for years past when I was actually enjoying it and then came back for Classic and actually played it past 2 weeks, I got exactly what I was looking for, which was community including server community, I disagree with you.
Also, you don’t seem to have played the Classic games so it’s not clear why you’re on this forum. I stay off the Retail forum completely as it’s not my place to comment on those threads.
You got the #mychanges goon squad trolling your thread now. Carefull, they will write paragraphs just to call out spelling and grammar as well as answer any responses with insults and trash talk
Do you know what the most common complaint is right now in retail? I doubt it, but I’ll fill you in. The most common complaint about retail wow;
‘Blizzard doesn’t listen to feed back, and does whatever they want to do anyways.’
That’s interesting, isn’t it?
The entire notion that listening to the community and making changes in classic era will lead to retail is a strawman argument. There is room to for appropriate changes in TBCC and soon to be WOTLK, without turning the game into retail. Any reasonable person will see that.
Insisting you can’t listen to feedback and make changes in classic era without ruining the game is nonsensical.
Millennial mindset is min/max, minimum effort, maximum expectation. Besides why you got to bring senior citizens into this, 70-year-olds don’t play wow.
That is what I"m worried about too. I plan to stop at litchking… I hated cataclism, which if you look at the numbers is where blizz lost a lot of people.
It would be interesting if they let us swap out talents For example, as priest, I’d love to have blink… and give up greater heal … could be some interesting mixes there lol. Not possible, I know… but the i like the thought of it
In fairness to WoW, FF14 had the chance to learn from the mistakes of WoW. Plus, it doesn’t need to throw bones to legacy players the same way retail WoW does.
As other have pointed out, retail isn’t bad because of QoL features, it’s bad because everything outside of raids is terrible. And the systems they’ve added, not QoL features, that are designed to make play the game more are either unbearable or a complete waste of time.
That being said, one thing most people conveniently like to forget is the QoL features solved real problems in the game. We got cross realm BG’s because imbalanced servers had horrible queues and small servers were the same handful of teams just playing each other over and over. We got LFD because it was nearly impossible to find groups for old dungeons. We got LFR because WotLK raids were “too easy” and then cata raids were “too hard” but blizz removed the easy difficulty to cater to “hardcore” raiders, hence the introduction of a “new” easier difficulty.
These are just a few examples, and in hindsight they didn’t always choose the right solution. They were “necessary” to keep the game relevant. As other games evolved, wow had to keep up or risk getting left behind.
I’m 65 and I know people older than me playing classic. If they keep releasing expansions every couple of years I’ll be playing MoP when I’m 70. If not I’ll be playing some other video game.
This from the person who started a whole topic, "Boosturds" just to insult people and trash talk. I know you like lists, so if there was a list of people who respond with insults and trash talk you’d be at the top of that list. It’s so amusing to see you complaining about it.
feeling like i must be fuzzy on wotlk implementation of lfd, I remember forming alot of groups and having to fly to alot of dungeon entrances during wrath…or would that be the bit of added toward later end of the xpac?, been a while xD, was easy as finding groups on blackrock-us, that much I remember
Yes, I created a thread to label gold farming chat spamming booster as boosturds. Oh my, I gave a bad name to something that clogs chat channels up with crap. I will respond to insults in kind. I’ve tried to post constructively in many threads and you and your clown posse just wants to troll and quote out of context and badger, I do think you have a compulsive disorder by how triggered you get over trivial quips and mistakes, I also think you lack empathy and a sense of humor. You say I insult others, but in reality, you are just easily offended and take general statements too personally. You say your 65 and educated, yet you lack tact and vocabulary and act like a 12-year-old troll, you’ve targeted me and harass me, and you sir are not even a turd, your like that dongleberry that hangs on and makes you use a whole roll of toilet paper to deal with.
For example, as priest, I’d love to have blink… and give up greater heal … could be some interesting mixes there lol. Not possible, I know… but the i like the thought of it