Uh, the content Warlords had was really good lol. At this point you are just trying to make up whatever you can think of to justify your position.
You must have a poor memory. Legion was complete garbage at the start. Huge chunks of the playerbase quit and it wasn’t until like the after the second patch that things started to improve.
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Yeah okay, it’s clear you’re delusional. I’m not going to argue with someone who has blinders on.
How am I delusional? You haven’t even provided a solid argument for your own position lol. If cut content is what makes an expansion bad, well, Shadowlands has cut content 
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I literally listed multiple things other than cut content and you’ve either ignored that, or said ‘it was good’.
Raiding in WoD was fantastic.
PvP in WoD was fantastic (although Ashran was called Trashran for a reason).
Class balance was great, classes were fun to play.
There were a few redeeming factors about WoD that make it a tolerable experience. But that’s it.
Dailies? Almost Non-existent and worse than literally every expansion that came before or since.
Reputations? Worse than every expansion that came before or since. Even some of the vanilla reputations were better.
And I cannot stress how bad the cut content was. If all we lost was a single content patch worth of content it wouldn’t be so bad, but we lost SO MUCH. No expansion either before or since has cut as much content as WoD did in order to get it out the door. The devs even had the gall to lie to us about Bladespire and Karabor, saying “We were never going to turn Bladespire and Karabor into capitals.” even though Blizzcon footage existed and players found whitebox levels of Karabor’s interior, showing that they were clearly designing it to be a capital city and just stopped.
Patch 6.1? The ‘biggest patch ever’ with its major feature being twitter intergration and a toy camera? Really?
If you liked the raiding in WoD? Great, fantastic.
If you liked the class balance and PvP? Great, fantastic, happy for you.
But don’t sit there and tell me that the other 70% of the expansion was good when it was complete trash.
So basically, what makes up the bulk of WoW content since literally Vanilla was great.
What other 70%? Even now that isn’t a thing lol. The bulk of this games content is and always has centered around the three things you mentioned being good.
You aren’t really making a solid argument here.
I’ve made a very solid argument, you’re just absolutely ignoring all the points I’m making. Which is why I’m done with this. You’ve got your blinders on, and nothing I say will change that, so I’m not going to continue. Bye.
No it hasn’t it hasn’t changed a thing at least not yet. Microsoft has no legal control over Blizzard at the moment
It would help if you understood what you are talking about. The Microsoft acquisition isn’t even finalized yet. They are not in control. They are not calling the shots because they legally can’t at this point in time
Just to give you a little bit of perspective normally when a company acquisition happens there’s 1-2 years of paperwork being finalized before a company can even take control, and that’s only if the company has enough finances to really push their legal department moving fast. Which of course Microsoft does
Another thing of note is that a lot of times there are closing contracts saying the company cannot make any changes for X amount of years. We have no idea what those closing contracts looked like
No you haven’t lol. You openly just said that the three pillars of WoW content was good in Warlords. Like, if your entire argument rests on cut content, content that can’t even be considered good or bad because it never existed, then I’m not sure you understand what a solid argument actually is lol.
Watching two people argue about who’s 
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Also Metaverse… refer to the movie ready player one (scifi often is a blueprint for society).
It speculative to say that the poor sales and retention in SL led to positive changes to SL (finally allowing covenant switching and player convenience). It also only helps for content POST DF not for DF itself.
They don’t, Ion should have been fired for SL or at least shuffled out of his role and into encounter design. He is good at raids and I imagine logistics (i.e managing the team) but having any creative control or making decisions about what players want should be stripped from his role… he literally fought the entire community over covenant lock in / “meaningful choices”. I respect that he took a stand and put his “neck on the block”, but it has proven to be catastrophic.
It also had dungeon finder, one of the most ground breaking features in making the game more accessible to those 12 million subs (the average wow players is VERY bad at the game). This is the blizzard that is removing that feature in Classic WOTLK and constantly laments ever putting it in the game since it ruined it for them.
Three? BFA and SL… Legion was very well received wasn’t it? I rate it as the best wow xpac.
I am still waiting to see what DF has… outside of “dragon riding”… what does a non-raider/M+ player do?
The design of wow is very success / fail oriented… either you find a guild/schedule to slow into and achieve “success” or you dont find a guild and generally move on. The games design and content streams are not viable longer term for casual / solo play… and blizzard have shown they are against moving the game in that direction (as it agitates the more hardcore section of the fandom)… basically there are not 12 million “hardcore gamers” that will sub. Either the game provides an enjoyable experience for them or it doesnt.
Except there are different tiers of and some may indicate some serious health issues. Shadowlands is black , aka time to seek out a doctor immediately lol.
microsoft has a long history of not meddling in their internal development companies. don’t expect anything major to change.
Well hopefully the transaction will go through, there have been reports about some concern with it being approved. But I’m assuming it will go through it’ll take time for Microsoft changes to appear in wow. A huge transaction like that isn’t turn key.
I’m not freaking out though. Just not preordering until I see something which would make me want to preorder.
“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me three times…”
Isn’t CoD the gorilla in the room? I don’t k ow how much of the revenue stream WoW accounts for, but I can’t imagine it holds a match to CoD.
You also have HS, OW2, and D4 to help prop that revenue next year and that’s what we know is coming. I don’t think DF is going to be the big of a deal in the grand scheme of things to Microsoft. Important sure, but there are bigger fish.
the acquisition has yet to go through, and the projected date for this is q1/q2 2023 so as much as i want phil spencer to begin administering chemotherapy to wow, we’ve got quite some time until it happens
I mean doing 4 old dungeons per season i dont think thats what fans really want, not me anyway
Its the fourth of July and all of you are arguing about a DK Vulperas post
The Microsoft acquisition doesn’t even go official for over a year and thus far they’ve made no indication they want to get rid of Bobby Kotick.
Could Microsoft signal better times? Maybe. People massively underestimate the degree to which Microsoft is developer friendly. But on the other hand, Microsoft basically wrote the book on modern Hard Corporate mentalities.
WOD wasn’t rushed out the door, it was deliberately sabotaged. By the time the game shipped virtually all development teams had already been moved onto Legion. Meaning that they’d been undermining WOD’s development before it even shipped.
Plus the worst expansion was Legion, anyways. It signaled that that Blizzard would happily learn absolutely nothing from it’s previous expansion, completely scrap previous systems and invent new ones for no reason other than to dispose of them at the end of the expansion.
WOD was bad because it was sent out to die. Legion was bad because it completely undermined the release of it’s predecessor and was still bad.
Microsoft hasn’t even acquired them yet.