EU Forums are apparently melting down

[Hypêrspace-dalaran (Hypêrspace)]

you must be new here.

[Rutabagah-thorium-brotherhood]

The core problem is that there were localized servers at launch back in Vanilla, and it created and maintained the strong community feeling we are all willing to experience again, and international realms will ruin that.

Also, here are some reddit evidences about what is the problem when there is a large community on limited international servers taking over, a problem that cannot happen on megaservers like TESO and where both french and germans are willing to blend in.

However I also played Classic WoW on a server which was an unofficial spanish server (Agamaggan)

Many (not all) of the Spanish players I encountered on there had no desire to communicate with non-spanish speakers. They played the game to themselves and consequently English, Swedish, Hungarians and other nationals did the same. Guilds were very nationalistic with <The British Brotherhood> <Hungarian Honoured> <Swedish Valhalla Elite> and others popping up.

This fractured the communities that could speak English and caused a population problem for several Guilds.

Eventually Blizzard opened dedicated Spanish realms and offered free character migrations. The server went from Medium pop to Low pop and never recovered, with most Guilds having migrated by the end of TBC.

You just gave me a flashback. I was one of those, who migrated to Kor’gall from Agamaggan.

I remember getting grouped with some from Hakkar in WotLK LFG, and always having to hope they brought along a translator, as the Hakkarians only would speak Italian, making planning way harder.

Crushridge-EU was also notorious for being full of Italians. Also for being piss poor at the game. Used to hate getting grouped up with them in wrath.

I also happened to unintentionally settle on a polish realm. They were decent at the game, but downright assumed 100% of the population was also polish. Getting whispers constantly to join their “gildia” got on my nerves.

Started playing on Warsong EU, afterwards that turned into the de facto Russian server, that wasn’t fun.
That turned into a free transfer to Emeriss, which turned into a Bulgarian server. Again, not much fun. Pugging just wasn’t an option, we got a tight group of Scandinavian/Benelux/British players who were refugees.

I’ve already experienced wow as a melting pot on private servers. If I was a european, I wouldn’t want that. You don’t end up with one big community, you end up with english lingua franca and a bunch of fragments defined by a given language with almost no overlap between them. It basically becomes retail, except you don’t talk because most of the group won’t be able to understand.

Bruh. I played on a server that was full of Russians. If my memory serves me right we were eventually offered free server transfers and the realm was made an official russian server. It sucked a$$.

I got f*cked by this in vanilla… my alliance realm was Hakkar which slowly turned into Italian only and I couldn’t afford a transfer.

Broke my little heart having to leave my main there until wotlk while I rerolled elsewhere.

I also got f*cked by this playing on Hakkar, but from the other side. Meaning I’m Italian and playing in a server like this was a terrible experience, made me feel ashamed of being Italian. Most Italians I’ve come across on wow, before they added localized realms, had a good enough understanding of English to communicate if they wanted to. The problem is they didn’t want to. Because they were toxic people who thought they were entitled to a localized realm and were actively trying to push out foreigners by speaking Italian only as a way to stick it to Blizzard.

I recall playing on Drak’thul EU in Vanilla and TBC. We nicknamed it Czech’thul because most (and I mean ~95%) LFGs and LFMs in chat were followed by “… cz only”. On a few occasions I would just /w inv and proceed to not talk/repeat basic czech words if confronted.

In the end I did get into an english speaking guild and eventually migrated realms. But the point is, there’s going to be small to medium communities that don’t speak english regardless if they did make servers for different languages.

I remember back in WOTLK there was a Swedish guild on my realm that wouldn’t play with anyone else but Swedish people, they also made PUGs for Ulduar when they couldn’t get the numbers and if an item dropped they would just straight ninja it, if a guildie got outrolled the item would still go to the guild player and if you tried to argue the case you would get kicked from the raid.

[Juuhachigou-tichondrius (Juuhachigou)]

Eh, it’s probably harder for us to understand this problem, Since NA doesn’t really have a national langue or anything and i’m pretty sure we’ve all heard some one speak like 3 different ones at least once. I mean in my state we got like, a ton of Asian’s Spanish and slav’s depending on where you go.

As a former EU player imagine playing the game and chat is constantly spammed with things you cant read due to it being, French, German, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, Polish, Swedish, Norweign, Danish, Finnish, Greek, Italian or whatever language Im currently missing I know I missed Dutch cause I can actually understand that one.

Either way its a constant spam of all those languages because everyone refuses to speak English. Im happy on US servers now and you cant bring me back to them.

I recently made an ESO character on EU and instantly regretted it when I saw someone speaking German in chat.

Also you thought the South American communities were bad at the game? The Germans litteraly used troll tactics in PvP. I remember playing AV on EU and when you know the enemy faction are the Germans communities you knew you’d be there for 3hours waiting for either sides resources to deplete as they only camped and never advanced past a certain point.

[Ninifix-wyrmrest-accord]

From my observation, those Germans who are capable of communicating in English are perfectly willing to do so - unless you force them to do so.

If you are a tourist on a German street and ask for the way, people will of course tell you the way, in broken or better English. Even my mother who is in her 60s and has never learned to speak English will at least try.

If you are a tourist on a German street complaining that no one speaks English (*), people will tell you what country you are in - or keep that thought to themselves, we are mostly polite after all. (* Yes, I’m talking about you, angry American lady at the tourist information, and no, you can’t expect all stores to accept American dollar cash either )

I think the question of what’s considered “home” is what it’s about for most players who are on the warpath right now.

You decide, what language is spoken at home. German and French players are “at home” on their retail realms since the original launch in 2005 (?). And since they want their authentic #nochanges experience back, they want to be at home on their classic realms, too. Not just from a language perspective but everything.

Blizzard now tells them, on very short notice before launch, that Classic realms won’t be home. Of course they’ll go ballistic. Having to communicate in a foreign language is not just a minor change.

[Jenojeno-area-52]

Blizzard now tells them, on very short notice before launch, that Classic realms won’t be home . Of course they’ll go ballistic. Having to communicate in a foreign language is not just a minor change.

Couldn’t agree more!

[Hàlfpînt-stormrage]

National realms?

As in EU and NA?

Is this a thing paddy?

Will it be a thing?

It sounds like fun

sorry for 500 questions<3.

[Seid-caelestrasz]

The most French thing I’ve ever seen. We love those crazy baguettes but please give them their own server. Everyone will be happier.

[Jenojeno-area-52]

The most French thing I’ve ever seen. We love those crazy baguettes but please give them their own server. Everyone will be happier.

Thanks for your support!
I’m croatian, we love them too. Even though they beat us 2 times in the soccer World Cup (semi finals 1998, finals 2016) We’ll pay them back one day
We love Germans and the British as well, and of course the Americans!

We all want the same, a true Classic experience, which was promist to all of us.
Cheers, and a big thank you for everyone who supports us!!!

[Pintero-moon-guard (Pintero)]

Oh i’ve played on P servers, i had that happen all the time. EU’s are very very… Uh, not friendly to American’s over there, and we where quite a minority so though it wasn’t that bad, so long as you fell in with enough American’s and English speaking eu’s or People from the middle east etc.

[Loravir-aegwynn]

The german thread passed the 10k posts mark with over 2,2k+ different characters.

[Deathkoil-cenarion-circle]

K the Europeans gave away their right to complain about being on the same server when they formed the EU. Either you are together or you ain’t. I’m being a bit cheeky obviously, anyway why not give each language its own layer, that way they can pretend they are sooo different while on the same continent just like in real life.

Let’s be real. What they are really worried about is being on the same PVP server as the Germans. Historically speaking, it’s not going to end well since the Americans and Russians aren’t there.

[Seid-caelestrasz]

Your post is so full of nonsense that I don’t even know where to begin. That’s like saying the US and France should have the same servers because they’re both part of NATO.

[Deathkoil-cenarion-circle]

NATO doesn’t allow free movement of peoples. So it’s not like that. But also I was just cracking jokes so you can have my permission to unclench what ever it is that you have been clenching for the past decade.

[Fobnop-turalyon (Fobnop)]

I don’t see what the big deal is. My main game is ESO and they have megaservers, they are for NA and EU and are not broken up by language and it works just fine. I play on both and only speak English and it isn’t a problem. The players in this game are simply making it a problem.

[Heidene-kelthuzad]

The fun part is when a German will names locations, mobs and item in german (because of the german client) but saying that to a french or english player with a different wow client lol

I can already see it…

“Pardon Herr Franzose, may i interest you in some nice [Teufelsfledermauslederschulterstücke]?” (Felbat Leather Pauldrons)

This is gonna be fun indeed

[Twiinkedd-moon-guard]

Let’s be real. What they are really worried about is being on the same PVP server as the Germans. Historically speaking, it’s not going to end well since the Americans and Russians aren’t there.

I laughed so hard my eyes bulged.

[Purjery-muradin (Purjery)]

You mean like… any of the other 40+ European nations that aren’t throwing tantrums?

No one is “throwing tantrums” English speaking people don’t like it either.

[Purjery-muradin (Purjery)]

The players in this game are simply making it a problem.

I don’t know anything about ESO, but I’m worried I’ll waste a large portion of time leveling up a character I can’t raid with because I chose the server with mostly non-English speaking people. Is ESO just like wow or something?

[Purjery-muradin (Purjery)]

K the Europeans gave away their right to complain about being on the same server when they formed the EU

Literally has nothing to do with World of Warcraft.

[Loravir-aegwynn]

The german thread got so big…it passed the 13k mark today and there are so many participants that the forum system got an error and is no longer showing the count of participants.