And one character has to go through it at least once if they were account-wide. It doesn’t devalue anyone else’s effort.
The system is character based though and not account based.
But it was never like this in the past. Not like this, in any way. The rental powers were never like this and if they were they had such crazy catch up mechanics that it was negligible.
There was a time when gear was the only thing you had to worry about. It would be so nice if we could do that again.
PvP on my monk fun… PvP on my hunter not fun. I love raiding and mythic+ but the majority of essences don’t come from either of those. And its not fun to clear an old raid for 3 weeks.
I can clear 15+ on this character. On my alts with the exception of my monk I need a carry because they don’t have essences. They have gear (445-460+). Even then Iris is only used as a major for most my characters when they are in mythic+ its not the BiS major for almost all other content.
Its not better than crucible as a major until rank 3 for almost every spec in game (there might be 1 or 2 where it is), and as a minor its insignificant until rank 3 when it gets the increased proc rate which brings it from 1-2% of someone’s dps to 6% or more.
Yes they can. Go sim your character with no essence and then with BiS rank 3. What’s the catch-up for essences? Oh, right there isn’t one.
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Time played metrics > all. This is the unfortunate reality of Actiblizz these days. I don’t see it changing much either unfortunately. SL looks to have rental powers too which is lame. I wish they would just make new abilities or talents. Rental systems have been a thing since the MoP cloak is the thing. It’s just progressively gotten worse.
Which is an arbitrary distinction that people are lobbying to change. Account-wide means everyone still has to go through the process of obtaining them at least once.
You are posting on a spec where breath r1 minor is better than 2/3s the r3 minors…
If you are simming the difference between no essences and bis you braindead. Sim the difference between the multiple essence combos available in the first week of hitting max level and bis. It’s not double.
Almost all of the essences have had their costs reduced or added currency like rep tokens to make them easier for alts to acquire.
Two does not equal almost all. The only two essences that had any reductions were the two rep vendor ones. Again those are not BiS for every spec. The rep tokens only work if someone has one character already heavily played. You can’t just buy the rep tokens on a character that already has the rep. That character has to have the resources from doing weeks of that content in last patch or farming it now. This isn’t a time save its still a time sink you just get a partial refund.
But its not worth replying to you anymore because you obviously have limited clue what you are talking about and are firm in advocating against account-wide because it somehow diminishes your sense of accomplishment.
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Demon Hunter - Lucid Dreams Major
Rank 1: 1100
Rank 2: 1200
Rank 3: 3300
anything else baboon?
Yea mind boggling idea 
I actually don’t get the people who think it’s good game design to make players waist more time on chores even though they’ve done them already. So they can just jump into the actual meat and potatoes of game play, getting gear via actual fun content.
Let’s bore people into staying longer? Makes sense. Sadly you’re never gonna convince these guys. They play one character and enjoy having a big power advantage over others.
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If they are going to make essence BoA,
its probably going to be a few months before Shadowlands.
Just like Legion legendaries. They made specific legendaries purchasable when it no longer really mattered.
But I really wish they made essence BoA already.
I don’t feel like doing PvP on my alts, like on my DH, just to get that BiS Conflict Strife.
BTW, my DH only has 3 dps essences so far. 1 green and 2 blues lol
The issue is that these “chores” are part of the core of this expansion so I wouldn’t really call them chores as much as I don’t really enjoy the essence system. Literally all of the content in the game includes essences in one way or another and timegates it. It’s just the reality of what this expansion entails.
Absolutely hilarious that you’re telling someone that they dont need it because its 700 dps.
If this guy or anyone else has 700 dps more and doesnt have to do the horrible time gated crap to get there, what possible effect does that have on you??
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Your sim has infinite stars and yet he has no infinite stars in the log…
I totally get the desire to play multiple alts, I like doing it myself. But alts don’t have to have the same progression as a main character either.
Something like rank 2 being account wide feels reasonable to me, for example. Nobody really needs rank 3 essences on a 6th or 7th alt. Come on now.
It should be possible to have a bunch of alts with solid progression, but they don’t all have to be optimal.
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Some players have a lot of time on their hands it seems though… A few people in this thread have posted they have 12-15 max level characters (I know there are others I’ve seen post that have 30-50). To me that is absolutely insane but I’m not here to judge peoples playing habits.
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I have one max level for each class but only 5 are geared enough I could do some raiding or mythic+ on them if essences were account bound.
i am so for that.
because even to get to rank 2 would side step allot of grind and establish a great jumping point for main swapping.
altaholics are a interesting community.
I was before this xpac. then essences…
There are greater disappoints, like bringing irl issues into a game discussion.
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And there is nothing wrong with that; It’s just not for me and never has been. I play like 8 hours a week. Some people play 8+ hours a day; which again I’m not judging anyone. I’m married and have a career; I don’t have unlimited hours to play the game and have 20 alts.