I think we can all agree that it is unfair for randomly selected players to get rolled on by well thought-out, selected teams.
BUT it is part of the game and it is how blizzard intends for the game to be played (ateast in epics).
We can spend years complaining about how unfair it is but the best anyone can do is to recruit a complainer to ease their suffering.
Thats just my two cents on this issue
It will never be changed. Blizzard will never do anything about it. And you just gotta roll with it babygirl
Facts, get with it or get lost.
Get right or get left.
Sorry not sorry
Exactly, beat them or join them! I’m in every community so I always end up on top. This is how it’s meant to be
If Blizzard intended for raid groups to be able to play together then why do you have to countdown queue?
Str8 weaklings. They’re everywhere.
Their pov is they have not been banned outright so far so therefore its allowed. lol.
There are always scrubs trying to walk the tight rope between what is and isnt allowed “technically” in the tos “actually…” it doesn’t say that anywhere. even at the top end of the game like those race to world first guys who engaged in something they knew logically was unfair and got banned for it.
The people in dragonflight using what was basically a kickbot macro to try and get a advantage also got banned for using something they knew was shady but again “technically… actually” was not against tos specifically but they knew it was basically a kickbot.
And everytime on x you have those same players who start whining about getting banned in their mind from “out of nowhere” but they were fully aware of what they were doing and i laugh about it every time.
So they do ban for doing it just in content they actually still care about evidently.
Very true
Blizzard has publicly stated they don’t want premade raids in random bgs because it’s unfair to the pugs and it drives players away from PvP.
Blizzard has asked premade raiders to play in brackets meant for premade raids, i.e. rated bgs or war games.
The system still does not allow raids to queue for random bgs.
Premades have been a thing since Vanilla.
It’ll be 20 years in November…I think we’re in the clear.
Are we going to talk about how we used to be able to queue up as a single raid group and then Blizzard broke that or does that not fit the narrative?
There have been anti premade measures taken since then as i’ve said. You’ve just undermined them.
Also premades are becoming less and less relevant as time goes on just like interaction in general in this game is becoming less and less relevant in wow as the expansions go on.
Not to mention all the features where premades are not allowed like rss blitz (to be decided) lfg lfr and all the rest story mode raids and follower dungeons.
Where do you get this idea from? Blizzard has clearly stated randoms is not a place for large organized groups.
Your fix to the problem is to be part of the problem?
they moved the maps large organized groups play on to their own queue: Epics.
seems like the problem was already solved and you just don’t like the solution.
Source?
If thats true then i stand corrected. But then again, why havent they done anything about it? Why do they turn a blind eye?
Here we go again with the shenanigans…
So youre telling me that Blizzard has been saying the same thing for twenty years and done nothing about it, and we are suppose to believe that it is not what they want?
Lets be real
We can all agree that they dont care
I solo queue all the time, lose all the time, i am part of those who get stomped. So what?
So, you can queue as a raid into epics?
IDK why you guys keep saying this lie that blizzard hasn’t done anything… blizzard got rid of raid queue’s they broke addons that allowed people to auto queue, and they need to do that again, they openly said they don’t want large, organized groups into randoms.
Just because you don’t want fun fair games doesn’t mean other people don’t as well.
No action isn’t and excuse to exploit.
And as Celinthia pointed out the breaking of the queue coordination addon is another example.
Genuinely don’t know why you guys spend so much time and energy trying to handwave away what it is ya’ll do. Who are you trying to convince? Us or yourselves?
Have the sand to own what you do. “Yes we sync queue and we do it so we can have an advantage over the enemy team. We enjoy pug stomping.”
Celinthia id be the first one to vote on separating pugs from premades, i dont find it fair either. But the current system is what Blizzard wants, they dont care and im willing to bet it isnt going to change anytime soon.
So im going to give you the same advice that i give others, hit J on your keyboard and join a pvp community. TA-DA! Its like magic.
It really wont hurt ya
are there raids in epics? show me the raid group.
You and Nerinir need to get on a call and coordinate your talking points. You’re not doing each other any favors.