Epic Losses in a row can you beat it

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factory inspected butt sausage

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feeling increasingly belchy suddenly

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falling into bed suddenly

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The thing is I love doing epics I just hate WG with a passion when that BG got reintroduced that when my winrate started on the decline on all epics.

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I’m the exact opposite, I love WG, but we lose 75% of the time.

It wears on you.

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I hate vehicle PVP to me that what WG is.

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Same

The last time Southshore vs Tarren Mill was up, I legit spammed it for like 4 hours on the last Monday night that it was up.

I didn’t even care about conquest points etc, I q’ed up for it just because it’s a lot of fun :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Now that there’s suddenly all this hype surrounding Classic and all these twitch streamers playing Classic, I’ve been reminded of SS vs TM once again :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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The 25th of next month and it feels like I haven’t played it forever. SS vs TM needs to be put into the epic Q.

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I second this motion :+1: :+1: :+1:

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@Bdm & Gdtroll,

I am becoming slightly convinced about the idea of adding SS/TM to the epic queue, but only because it would provide another dash of spice to the epic rotation. Last night I got a bunch of IoCs and it was tiresome to play that same map over and over.

They gotta look into the lag issue though. People say “oh it’s just your computer” - no way, because I don’t have such bad lag issues in other epic BGs. (Explain that, potato-computer accusers :stuck_out_tongue:)

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The lag issue comes from a server hop they put you on. There’s only 2 or 3 times I lagged out, but I was on a different server than mine but yes it need look into.

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its most definitely server side lag, if it was client side it wouldn’t affect everyone. and you wouldn’t be sitting there watching everyone run in place with buttery smooth 60+ fps.

and this is different from latency issues from being put on a server in sidney. thats just 300ms latency you need to account for in spells, but that is just as unacceptable. 75 people shouldn’t have to put up with 300ms latency because 5 are upside down.

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Oh also… Inemia, Jara, and I were in this truly epic AV battle last night/early morn. A few thoughts:

  • The alliance won and I give them props. That was one of the best strategic AVs I have ever seen alliance play, especially in recent history. (Why do I never get on such teams?)

  • @Horde, IMO we could have won if we understood our strengths - as I tend to insist incessantly. The strength of horde in AV is defensive chokes. And we had a few options:

    • After we burned SHB, we could have all fallen back to the IB choke and grinded alliance for a while, before pushing north after they weakened from AFKs and worsened morale.
    • After we took SHGY and capped IWB, we could have held IW choke and grinded alliance for a while, before pushing north after they weakened more from AFKs and really bad morale.
    • After we took SPGY and burned both DB towers, we could have fallen back to IW choke and grinded the poor alliance till we won.
    • Our mistakes: allowing alliance to backcap their GYs; not calling out numbers north (there were too many alliance defending/backcapping north); not keeping at least one mine the whole game; granting alliance SFGY from which they were able to easily come back on offense

**Basically, we could have won via strong defense. Sometimes there is no need to kill Vann.

/end AV rant du jour
:cowboy_hat_face:

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Speaking of Inemia, I saw him on the opposing Horde team in a Wintergrasp earlier. Alliance was on defense, I was on Alliance team.

I didn’t see him on the charts at the end of the game, did he ragequit?

Alliance ended up winning, one of the very rare times I actually didn’t AFK out of a Wintergrasp. It’s Sunday and I’m kinda bored, I saw the WG loading screen and figured I would give WG a chance and play it out for once :thinking:

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I mean, why not?

The more choices, the better imo

Also, it’s the only “death-match” format bg that I’m aware of, it would help round out the formats in the line-up. Would add some more variety to the mix.

So far we have…

  • “kill the enemy’s boss” format (AV)
  • “siege warfare + enemy boss” format (IOC)
  • “vehicle warfare” format (WG)

The straight “death-match” format (ex. SS vs TM) is missing from the rotation :thinking:

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yes, she quit, simple math with WG, 19 minutes remaining on what is a loss or 15 minutes on deserter.

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Absolutely not until they can fix the tremendous lag it causes nearly everyone. I’m all for more epic BG’s, matter of fact I think Battle for Stormgarde and Battle for Darkshore should become epics. Also waiting for TB to be added.

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they don’t want to pay for proper bare metal hosting though. AWS and other virtualization hosts are fine for webservers, AD, and other business related needs, they are not okay for gameservers with very quick dynamic load increases and users who are extremely sensitive to latency and resource issues.

the sad part is that blizz seems to like to hire people on the cheap cheap and good network engineers are not cheap.

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I’ve experienced the same lag in IOC recently, so I don’t think it’s “tied” to any particular bg and has more to do with opposing deathballs of 35/40 players crashing into each other. That’s what seems to trigger it :thinking:

In Southshore vs Tarren Mill this 40v40 clash of players happens immediately, so that’s probably why people associate it with being laggy at the start.

Hangar fight has been a lag-fest in like every other IOC game I’ve played today, so it’s not just an issue that occurs in SS vs TM.

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The things i don’t like about WG are crappy teams that don’t want to try (I see this mostly on alliance side), vehicle bugs, and getting in a bad Attacking game where Defenders are basically chasing us around with vehicles for 20 minutes.

Also, SS/TM brawl is coming up pretty soon so you can spam it to your heart’s content, lol. I might try playing earlier to see if it’s more fun then. maybe I’ll even see Bdm and blame him if we lose, hahaha! :grin:

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