this is not a nerf dh thread or dh OP thread so please dont turn it into one. I just want to know if theres any tips for going against dh, they seem to not take any damage and i cant even hit them half the time, or specifically enhance against DH. I mainly do 2s with a healer cause i cant survive at all in double dps (im trash) but i would like to improve, i understand how other classes work and what to do when they do certain things but with DH it just feels like i can never fight them head on because they outclass me in ST dmg and healing
wait until they pop blur for no reason, then hex/shear healer and pop swifty, never relent. binding totem.
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double dps 2’s is for brainlets never let anyone tell u ur bad for playing the right way
enhance is likely the worst 2’s spec in the game next to affliction so it’s gonna be rough
dh shouldn’t ever find a way to lose to you
only time i really beat dh’s in 2’s is if they’re playing with a druid and i can spam purge
can typically oom the druid faster than manaburn on my hpal
or if they’re playing with an rsham i just have to win the shear hex trades when dh doesn’t have access to meta or if we have hoj for him and eventually he’ll go down
mw is really rough
you have to make it so far in damp that your damage matters without a win condition or mortal strike
it’s likely that a really aggressive rdruid might actually be better for you in this match up than hpal but overall i find that hoj, hpal mana, and hpal damage does a lot to fill in our weaknesses
im trying to find a good hpal 
why would a hpal run with an enhance though, logically it makes no sense for them. My damage is really good, er not my damage my burst is really good, sky fury with ascendance plus blood of the enemy plus sunder plus drest all that good stuff and i kill stuff pretty quick i just die before damp gets high enough to be able to 1 shot someone
I totally agree, DH are OP and need a nerf.
yeah, i honestly just play lucid foa most of the time and just plan to win on damp or rep most of the time since we do so much consistent dps
i think reap major is a little more consistent than bote, eventually people will recognize bote and start to play around it which makes it just feel bad
esp if you have high vers, going into every hoj with an 80-120k reap feels really good, and often is exactly what you need as enhance to kill something
Almost positive sky fury doesn’t affect ascendance. Windstrike is physical but it bypasses all armor. I tested it a while ago but maybe I’m not remembering correctly. Pretty sure it does work with sunder though which can be a fat crit.
ive hit 150k sunders and 170k trinks, skyfury is mainly for the healer and those 2
at least aff should do well into destros, Im not sure enhance has any good match ups to begin with (maybe aff actually)
idk lucid+fury of air just feels like ur losing out on a ton of damage and double incap/2nd kick but i can try it and see how it goes, i run lucid but it doesnt proc nearly as much as with foa (obviously)
only at 25% atm, planning to buy some vers amps when they come out and hopefully get to 30-35%, ill try that out too
ehhh it counters fire a little bit with grounding and purge and short interrupt cd but fire still can melt them down same with destro
btw what pvp talents would u recommend against melee?
yeah i mean my gear is ridiculous and it’s unrealistic for me to kill things 100-0 in a sunder go without ascendance even with onuse against anyone more than half awake or half geared
just feels way more realistic/reliable to get a go off consistent pressure at a point in the game that it’s hard to recover before or after that go
probably contingent on vers
i think at this point you can wear like 5 12s + 2 slappers or 7 12s and a 6 or 9 or something
most of the time a feel like a dh with more on demand damage and less utility just doing 40k dps and not really being scared of anything short of assass/disc
but that’s with like 80% vers (with procs up and no slappers)
does slapper mean unguents? XD i feel dumb for asking
ya it does LOL sorry
it just feels like you give up so much to play sunder since it requires you to be getting such clean reps, incap/song of chijis to make every 45 second window get a cooldown when you can just play like a dh and make opportunistic goes happen off really high consistent damage abusing hpal mana and in a lot of situations things like avenging light
I lost in 2s to an enhance named Trash and a pally named Garbage or something similar. It was the most humiliating experience.
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moi aussi mon ami
Samesies.
Just did a game with a MW healer vs an hpal and dh and we got wrecked, i got the dh low a few times and hexed the hpal b4 hand but after defensives plus leech with meta i just dont do any more dmg. couldnt stop them from killing my healer it doesnt help that my storm strikes were only hitting for an average of 10k ugh thats so weak
turbo is good into jungle
beyond that i have no idea
The secret is to have nobody react to your ascendance. If they reacted, wait 3 mins and press ascendance hoping they dont react.
Or the more reliable strat, if they reacted, wait 3-4 months for Slands.
No reason any decent spec should want to play with enhance, no reason any DH comp I’ve seen should lose to an enhance comp.
No reason for people to bash me in 8.1 for saying blizz hugely overnerfed enhance but hey, a dog will bark and this is the arena forums.
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yeah definitely, healing became trash, damage is trash, how is this “balance”?