Enhance and arms need buff

Ret is low key busted atm. Searing Glare is very annoying and just makes the game unfun. Can’t imagine buffing arms though. They are mid to upper pack. Why would they need buffs?

I’d be happy if enhance had just a bit more mobility or ‘easier’ access to things like Totemic Projection / Static Field.

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arms too so I can actually find games.

Can’t agree with that one, unfortunately.

What numbers? just curious what you mean.

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I would venture to say the reason you can’t find games as arms is because EVERYONE is playing it and you’re competing with fifty million other arms warriors for a spot. If it were really that bad would there really be a crapload of people playing it?

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I don’t want to go in circles but you can look at the bracket. 2400+ people only want ww/dh/ret/assassin/marks. Not a arms warr.

For sure, just curious what number you’re looking at. Arms looks pretty healthy in both 3s and RSS. Up to 2.1 they aren’t far behind ret. Fall off a little, but still good.

From a SV and enhance vantage point, arms is really annoying to deal with.

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I want to see how the rest of this week and awc play out, but balance feels a LOT better than I thought after watching/playing more games and people getting gear.

Ret/dh/arms & fury war are all good, UhDk seems GREAT.

bm hunter with dk and mm with a few comps seems pretty good

Feral and boomy also obviously great because cyclone.

all 3 mage specs are strong and viable, all 3 lock specs are strong.

sin and outlaw are insane (and im sure sub is fine, if less popular than the other two)

Ww does cracked damage and i dont see it a ton, but seems very good at all stages of the game

Ele+dh is nuts, turbo is really good, ive seen ele/demo and enh+fdk as well

Dev does big dam and is good with so many things.

Balance overall seems not terrible. There’s stuff id like to see redesigned (namely 80% of druids kit revolving around cyclone, overall game pacing, max hp and damage), but it seems like everything has multiple viable comps.

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Been playing my Enh that last couple days and it’s so annoying trying to stay on a target. Had a backpedaling Boomy constantly outranging me because an Arms War was bladestorming me with the 70% snare and I couldn’t waddle at him fast enough.

Yeah sorta my thoughts exactly.

Personally think boomy is a tad too strong along with feral causing some very toxic interactions (I don’t understand how feral/mage loses without throwing) but overall balance seems okay just some bad design with some slow game pacing

Enhance needs some work though for sure

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Agreed. I think you can just flat nerf clone, but id rather see a design where the specs ebtire gameplay identity isnt spamming the button because thats so unfun to play as and against.

Im never sure what to think and feel about the spec. It obviously is a back burner spec thats squishier than many others, but then the good ones absolutely crush with it and if it got, like, meaningful buffs then they’d just be unstoppable. Im not sure what the answer is.

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Yeah I agree with that entirely
Feral more so than boomy

Don’t think you’re particularly wrong here

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Like I said when they had a bursting ascendance with a range storm strike they were solid. Seems like it would help with all the movement in meta too. Think they were like that in wod or maybe legion idk.

Such a good job, well done.

Big sad no sv mention.

Don’t think it’s bad tbh, just mm (and bm a bit) better atm.

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Turbo players are not gonna like this statement

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Ascendence is a talent for them

Ya I mean enhance players typically aren’t satisfied unless the counterplay to them is thinking they might press their cds so you press every single button on your keyboard in defense

I remember ele blast in dragonflight expansion pre patch doing same damage as it is right now and when it got nerfed there were like 4 different shamans making rage threads

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what all 3 of them?

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