End the war on solo gameplay in WoW (Part 1)

[Betrollinmon-area-52]

@Snozh-malganis

Never claimed to know everything but yes I am better than most people at this game.

Really?

Could have fooled me! LMFAO!

Try again!

[Snozh-malganis]

@Betrollinmon-area-52

Really?

Yes.

@Betrollinmon-area-52

Could have fooled me! LMFAO!

Should try working on your reading comprehension.

@Betrollinmon-area-52

Try again!

No need too.

[Betrollinmon-area-52]

LMAO!

+20 characters!

[Betrollinmon-area-52]

2235 more than you, wth makes you so special? LMAO!

Just stop, you are digging that hole to China!

[Jamak-saurfang]

screw “family and country”, i do it for the cash

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

Well,that too.I agree !

[Snozh-malganis]

@Betrollinmon-area-52

2235 more than you, wth makes you so special? LMAO!

2235 more yet none of your achievements are worth anything.

@Betrollinmon-area-52

Just stop, you are digging that hole to China!

Bruh you are just embarrassing yourself now

[Lauriann-feathermoon]

Massive MULTIPLAYER Online. No where does that say MMOGPO Massive multi player online in groups only…people play this game in the game world alone many times and that has nothing to do with Massive MULTIPLAYER yes multi people online…shouldn’t have to have any GROUP to play online in this game…period.

I always thought that explanation was daft…people play the same game online…it shouldn’t be MUST GROUP TO DO IT…don’t believe that, never will.

EQ failed because of that requirement. Many left including me because I really hated that absoluteness of GROUP only in EQ. So I came to WoW many years ago, plenty to keep me busy solo. Now? not so much…nothing can deter me from thinking that. Not even rude crude comments here. MMO doesn’t mean MMOMG (massive multi online must group)

[Eleusia-myzrael]

@Snozh-malganis

I have looked it up. In gaming the definition of a casual gamer is based on time spent playing the game. Has zero to do with WHAT you do in game.

This definition of casual gamer gets the most hits on Google:

Casual Gamer: A person who plays games but aren't competitive. Usually they are just there to be social and have fun but if they end up losing in the game they wouldn't mind. They don't put in a lot of effort to try to win. They may or may not play long hours of games. A casual gamer doesn't place their gaming as a first priority.

Note how I am not saying that your definition is wrong, just that it’s not the only one. But you are saying that I am wrong and your definition is the only one, despite evidence to the contrary.

@Snozh-malganis

You can think whatever you want but you would be wrong,

“Casual gamer” has multiple definitions, and people may not agree on one. That is a simple fact, and has nothing to do with what I think.

@Snozh-malganis

IF people want to play solo thats fine, people should play how they want too. The issue is when you want higher ilvl gear than youre getting for the same tasks.

What would happen if solo players got a higher iLvl (not max of course)? None of the elitists on this thread have given a coherent reason why it would be so bad. “No, because I said so,” is not a reason, it just makes the elitists look entitled.

@Snozh-malganis

You do realize that SL is the most solo player friendly expansion to date right?

In what reality? Where is the soloist’s row in the Great Vault as a fourth pillar? Where is the innovative solo content that also has power rewards?

That’s like saying 9.1 was the best patch ever for raiders because they got the shards system. The devs may think they are pleasing a certain audience with their systems, but that doesn’t make the systems good.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Eleusia-myzrael

This definition of casual gamer gets the most hits on Google:

Because that makes it credible? No it doesnt. If 5 million people say 2+2 is 5 that doesnt make it true.

@Eleusia-myzrael

“Casual gamer” has multiple definitions, and people may not agree on one. That is a simple fact, and has nothing to do with what I think.

No it doesnt. It has ONE which is the one I stated. It has butchered meanings by people who try to use the word and misuse it all the time.

@Eleusia-myzrael

What would happen if solo players got a higher iLvl (not max of course)? None of the elitists on this thread have given a coherent reason why it would be so bad. “No, because I said so,” is not a reason, it just makes the elitists look entitled.

Actually multiple valid reasons have been stated.

• Gear needs to be equal to the effort it takes to acquire.
• Games die when games cater to stubborn player
• WoW has NEVER had solo play as a primary pillar.

@Eleusia-myzrael

In what reality?

The real life one.

@Eleusia-myzrael

Where is the soloist’s row in the Great Vault as a fourth pillar?

Considering WoW has never considered solo play a fourth pillar or worthy of giving a weekly reward.

@Eleusia-myzrael

Where is the innovative solo content that also has power rewards?

The majority of the playerbase doesnt want hard content. For solo play the equivalent difficulty for the gear you want would be too hard for the vast majority of solo players.

@Eleusia-myzrael

That’s like saying 9.1 was the best patch ever for raiders because they got the shards system. The devs may think they are pleasing a certain audience with their systems, but that doesn’t make the systems good.

SL has literally had the most rewards for solo players than ANY expansion to date. Try joining reality.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

Op,he’s trolling .All hail the mighty Snozh!

[Snozh-malganis]

Facts arent trolling my guy

[Eleusia-myzrael]

@Pyromor-shandris

Op,he’s trolling .All hail the mighty Snozh!

He has to be trolling.

I mean, I honestly hope he’s trolling, for the sake of his own psychological state.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

And yet ,you denied the facts or what you believe to be. Good logic there ,the might sozh has spoken!.

[Snozh-malganis]

@Eleusia-myzrael

He has to be trolling.

Because you dont like being told the truth its trolling? LOL.

@Pyromor-shandris

And yet ,you denied the facts or what you believe to be. Good logic there ,the might sozh has spoken!.

You have yet to state any facts. Nothing but uneducated opinions from you my guy.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

I haven’t seen you state any at all ,mighty Snozh
I want what you got so i can dream up some cool stuff.

[Snozh-malganis]

You not understanding the facts doesnt make them not facts.

Its ok though. I know its hard for you.

[Pyromor-shandris (Pyromor)]

Oh mighty snozh ,please do tell while a work on my ppe plastics.

[Vitalia-sisters-of-elune]

The hardcores got Blizzard to partially revert the nerfs to Frost Mage within a day of the nerfs being announced.

So can we get some hardcores to save world content gearing, and ultimately WoW? Say you want it for your alts or something?

We all know that the last place the devs would look is the game’s own official forums. More than a year of pleb players like me leaving the game and giving specific feedback has had the opposite effect of what we wanted.

[Aonax-magtheridon]

I don’t really understand why WoW needs to cater to a single player audience when its foundation was built on the concepts of playing with other people online. The idea was going on adventures and making new friends. Exploring a world and conquering a world that felt like it was more alive as a result of there being other people playing along side you. If your looking for a single player RPG there are literally dozens and dozens out there so again why dose this one NEED to cater to a player based who chose to withdraw themselves from the idea of a living world?

The game also has hundreds of hours of single player content you can engage in across its many previous expansions. There are hundreds of achievements which and be earned solo and even more quests which you can go and experience without a group. You can do battle pets, collect mounts, or even collect rare pets as a hunter. Literally hundreds of thousands of hours of content that can be completed as a single player.

The reality is if Blizzard were to decide “hey lets make all raids and dungeons scale from a single person to 30 people” This would mean a number of things would haft to go in to re designing how they create encounters and instances.

• First most mechanics would need to change based on player count and what roles are present

• Difficulty options would haft to have a huge variety of scaling in HP and damage which would require a MASSIVE amount of testing and even then would have inconsistent difficulty.

• Other content would need to be compromised to make time for the excessive time needed to develop and balance even a single boss.

This would lead to smaller and fewer dungeons and raids each expansion. Any kind of difficulty the game presented would likely be dissolved. At this point we would take the “World of” part away and take things back to just Warcraft. The people part of the world is a huge selling point to literally thousands of us who play this game to have fun with there guilds and friends. You sector of the community is rather un reasonable asking Blizzard to compromise a big part of the game identity because you are board.

Not every game is for every person. Don’t expect developers to change there game for a minority or individual. Different games different strokes. If you dislike the fundamental multiplayer aspects of the game then maybe it is time to look for another game that caters more towards your interests.