Getting rid of premades would make alliance win rate in AB/WSG pretty damn close to AV win rates. Alliance pugs are literally the worst things ever 90% of the time. Nobody defends nodes, everyone just yells at each other in chat, 3 people AFKing in most games, most are PVE specs and use 0 consumes. When premades are full or are not playing and I am forced to pug, I would say ally pugs are lucky to win 1 out of 10 matches.
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Because your geared and skilled players group exclusively with each other and don’t help the pugs succeed; because fighting half an enemy team is easier and faster than legitimately playing a regular match.
Premades continue to be the problem, here; and not the solution.
Nah… it is a completely different environment on ally then horde. Keep in mind that horde have really long Q’s, so they put everything they can in to every game. Ally have 2 min Q’s at most during peak hours. Most players try on the first push and then AFK or give up if it fails because it is better for honor to let horde win quick and just Q for next game. Horde have premades too, but ally pugs lose to horde pugs about 90% of the time regardless of BG.
Because***
None of your best players are there to help.
They’re too busy pugstomping, Azzuree.
Your arguement is worthless because Horde have premades too. If that was the case, then the fights would be even because your best players are in premades too
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I had a pretty decent win rate in WSG and AB when it’s pug vs pug as alliance.
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Define “pretty decent”
In WSG, Horde pugs are playing 7 v 10 on a good day because at least 3 people resigned themselves to lose before the gate opened, and are sitting in the flagroom awaiting death, because that’s apparently the best strategy to employ against a premade.
In truth, they’re trying to score even 1 kill in a match that’s likely to result in 0 bonus honor and 0 HK because the enemy team has stacked itself with enough healers to ensure none of their players will be killed – in effect, preserving consumables and world buffs.
A large portion of horde “PUGs” aren’t even actually pugs. Horde like to Q 10 man WSG groups for both WSG and AB so they can take whatever match pops faster.
I mean, at least you have the option of solo Q in AV for a free win every single match.
40-50% and the losses are actually worth playing as well.
As somebody who exclusively pugged to rank 10, most horde pugs have a maximum of 2 or 3 players from a single server.
Right, because the only Alliance players who participate in AV are alts, and the Horde has an almost 100% chance to be pitted against a premade in WSG and AB – so they don’t even bother to queue.
We’re still playing AV on our mains, because it’s only only battleground out of the 3 in which we’re able to get any honor at all.
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You lucky then. You have much better pug win rates than anyone I know.
Sure, if you can find a lucrative way to burn 2 hours while you’re waiting in queue.
Doesn’t help with getting reputation in either of the other 2 battlegrounds though.
I don’t think Horde would play AV if it weren’t the only way to get honor outside of a premade. Queue times would be far shorter for players who still needed rep there, and we’d have a lot fewer geared players clogging the pipes because they’d be busy in WSG and AB.
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Lol I played ~8 AB games last night against 10 man horde premades all helmets.
Then a motion to make premades play each other would be in your benefit.
shrug
There isn’t anyone it’s working against. Faster queues for premade teams, fairer games for everyone involved.
Except premade vs premade battles take about twice as long as pug vs pug.
It’s an interesting assertion, but untrue. There isn’t any evidence to support it. The design of AB, for instance, already proves that false.
What, do they have to cap the flag 6 times instead of 3?
No.
Pugs usually hold 3 nodes hard capped whole game. Premades are constantly trading nodes and they spend a much larger time soft capped not providing any points.
I only queue AV because I have to. It’s all I can pvp with. AB/WSG are unplayable as a pug because it is unplayable. I play AV on my main… again because I HAVE to. It’s the only way I can get honor at all.
I have to sit online /afk in UC for 13 hours a day and I only get about 5 games.
Do you think I want it to be this way? I don’t. I want it to be balanced for all of us who wish to simply be able to play. As it stands, the elitists have created a wall, and when we speak out against it, we’re treated like 2nd class citizens. Frankly, I’m sick of the elitism in this stupid game. Tired of their insults, and frankly, I don’t even read their stupid posts anymore. All they do is troll.
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