#End Human/Orc PVE supremacy

Can we please finally have another meta option for pve melee races other than orc and human?

Would be nice to see other races running around as wars. Weapon skill is such an op racial most people don’t even touch the other races because of it. Maybe give a weapon racial to all races. (yes im talking about 2hders too, not everyone wants to go 1h fury all the time).

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Really every race needs to wear edgemaster if they want to optimize, other than humans with maladath, anubisath hammer, or hungering cold.

Have wars also get 5 wep skill for each wep spec in arms. Fury gets to struggle!

Honestly it would be a cool change if they added +5 or even +10 weapons to each weapon spec in arms. There’s basically no way to get 2h weapon skill outside of OEB and human/orc, which is another reason 2h suck in raiding, and it would make arms more attractive as a spec.

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I’m hoping that with new/updated content being rolled out in SoD that if they don’t change races at all, that they at least keep weapon skill in consideration and give more options for +weapon skill so that every melee class doesn’t have to get edgemasters

so you want to see other races but you only play with people who care about peaking efficiency?

I don’t think the racials or edgies affect 2h weapons… Look at obsidian edged blade for instance. Two-Handed swords, at least, have their own weapon skill bonus on that item.

*Well the racial at least affects 2h. Not sure on edgies as I do not currently have a pair on ERA to test

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Not sure about edgies but pretty sure the racials are 1h and 2h.

Edgies only affect the 1h skills. My guess is they will address the weap skill problem by adding more gear with +weap skill on it or maybe a rune.

I meant this more for 2h skills. Besides 1 raid weapon you only have orc/human racial. Like someone else said its another reason why dw fury is the only option for competent wars.

And end orc pvp supremacy. Nerf orc stun resist

If warlocks can tank, mages can heal, pallies get a damage AoE that heals, and warriors get a 15-second Escape Artist, I fully expect Blizz to make +weapon skill gear more common going forward.

doesn’t solve the human/orc preference. Unless they make all weapons give +10 weapon skill human/orc will always be better melee specs becuase of how weapon skill affects hit chance, glancing blows, and parries.

Edgies do not, but the racials do. So really only orcs and humans can effectively use 2h in a raid aside from players using an OEB which inherently puts you at +8.

And as someone who really enjoys 2h fury slam spec its very sad to realize I made a mistake by simply not being an orc when I like troll voice lines/animations wayyy more.

Racial weapon skill is +5. OEB gives +8 2H swords, Mugger’s Belt +5 daggers, Expert Goldminer’s Helmet +7 axes, Edgemasters +7 axes/daggers/swords. There are others in BWL and Naxx. I’m sure Blizz is going to create more in SoD.

Yeah, if you’re anything but human/orc OEB is the best 2h weapon until naxx I think because the glancing blow penalty is so big.

Are they tho? Even with those items being out there humans/orc can opt out of them and go for other things while using racial weapons. Its why they are meta, simple. SoD can change it so easily with specific gear but why? When they can just give weapon skill racials to other races. It wouldn’t change anything other than giving other meta options.

Did you know that all races can play Melee classes?

It’s crazy, I know.

BiS 2h fury through Naxx iirc. But you need to be Horde with WF to really maximize it. Most fun I ever had in 2019 Classic.