Elemental in 8.1


(Ehelolx) #642
11/06/2018 05:29 PMPosted by Sieten

Where?


I checked on wowhead and logged in on the PTR out of disbelief and welp. No enhancement changes (oh wait they deleted a pvp talent) and no elemental changes. Jeepers. I want my class back man.

(Gumble) #643
11/06/2018 05:39 PMPosted by Ehelolx
11/06/2018 05:29 PMPosted by Sieten

Where?


I checked on wowhead and logged in on the PTR out of disbelief and welp. No enhancement changes (oh wait they deleted a pvp talent) and no elemental changes. Jeepers. I want my class back man.


Won't happen. They have given up.

(Prinsoph) #644
Not surprised we got no updates this week. Looks like they won't be fixing the class. There just isn't enough time to make changes and test them before 8.1 release.

Blizzard isn't taking anything serious and are too busy playing damage control and fixing broken expansion features to balance classes. Releasing an expansion with multiple classes that are broken. Admitting that they're broken and they're "working on it". Shaman playerbase wait months and months for a fix you promised was on the way only to do absolutely nothing. This is mind blowing.

(Kazumaa) #645
The change I would most like to see would be that shocks can be used while casting. Take them off of the GCD and let me flame shock as i cast lava burst, let me use All of my empowered frost shocks as I cast lightning noodle.

(Thalerion) #646
Not surprised we got no updates this week. Looks like they won't be fixing the class. There just isn't enough time to make changes and test them before 8.1 release.

Blizzard isn't taking anything serious and are too busy playing games on their mobile devices,damage control, and fixing broken expansion features to balance classes. Releasing an expansion with multiple classes that are broken. Admitting that they're broken and they're "working on it". Shaman playerbase wait months and months for a fix you promised was on the way only to do absolutely nothing. This is mind blowing.


Here I fixed that for you.

(Axön) #647
50 days since last dev contact... :'C

(Kabbie) #648
The WOW devs might want to borrow that form letter from the CM in the Diablo when 8.1 falls flat on its face.

(Mercybliz) #649
I hope these 8.1 "changes" are good... I created this toon in early beta (with that weird lightning bolt buff after earthshock) and Blizz still hasn't shown mercy lol.

Luckily my sub is up early Jan and doubt i'll be renewing as changes seem lackluster gameplay and dmg wise. Rarely even log on these days, the class is terrible compared to late Legion...

(Thalerion) #650
I stay subscribed on 6 month intervals because I really do enjoy leveling alts, I wish they would lift the 50 alt cap however because I'm running out of spaces.

Once I hit 120 though I stop playing the alt because the endgame is hot garbage and the fun grinds to a halt.

(Randomshocks) #651
Elmental has a totally relevant niche. Not sure what all the complaining is about.

Elemental is very essential to the game. It's that spec used for comparison, so when someone complains about how bad their spec is, people can respond "but at least you aren't as bad as Elemental Shaman!"

There you go! Maybe we call that utility?

(Lightningjay) #652
well is that it for the changes ? i mean come on there are better iterations of this spec in previous expansion lime MOp or cata so why is it so hard to fix this problem of 0 progress unless there is this hidden bias u have for a certain person or class but this is plain bad the rotation over all is the same with a bunch of restriction , stationary slower gameplay , like iv been fighting the good fight for shaman restoration since u killed it back in WOD like come on man u guys got to do better 2 exspansion later after the bombs drop and its even worse! this is so annoying.

(Alkii) #653
Flame Shock on a CD is just wonky ... it doesn't feel right.

Them removing Wind Gust really sucks.

The spec just feels awful these days and it hits like a wet noodle. You would think with such a high cost spell in Earthquake, it would do great AoE damage.

It doesn't and it's disheartening.

(Shamdiggles) #654
I think they should add a proc on earthquake that could let you cast a free chain lightning, similar to how flame shock and lava burst works.

Also think both ele and enhance should be able to cast chain heal (added utility).

(Deltaria) #655
A change i'd like to see personally is to ascendance.
Something along the lines of casting ES extends its duration by 1.5secs or so.
I feel like casting ES during it is a negative, regardless of DPS.

I also think LvB should benefit from Crit like Chaos Bolt all the time.

(Olluul) #656
Bring back Gust of Wind for the love of god. There's no reason Ele should have such awful mobility, it's not fun. Fun should be the number 1 priority, not stubbornly sticking to some weird design philosophy that everyone hates. No one is going to quit the game because you gave Ele back a spell they used to have, I'm sure plenty have because you take spells away. Just make your customers happy, like you used to try to do.

This whole design of "specs have weaknesses and strengths" completely falls apart when some clearly have no weaknesses while others have crippling weaknesses that pretty much exclude them from being desired in competitive content at all. Look at Havoc DH for example, they are strong single target, godly aoe/cleave, godly mobility, godly utility (5% magic, aoe stun, purge, insta cast hard cc, darkness), #1 self healing of any dps spec according to logs. So what is their "weakness"? Nothing... they're good at everything. It's no wonder you see specs like this in every mythic+ group.

Meanwhile you have Rets or Shamans who are bottom tier in pretty much everything. Awful mobility, bottom half of logs of every raid boss both ST and AoE, weak survivability, unwanted in mythic+. What is their "strength" they are sacrificing all this for? Where are all these boss fights where Shaman is #1 dps? There is none. The best you'll see a shaman is middle of the pack on 1 or 2 bosses.. that is their "strength", they get to middle of the pack on 1 or 2 bosses as compensation for being bottom 5 useless on everything else.. wow such balance. The excuse of "specs have weaknesses and strengths" is just false when most the top specs are good at everything, and the bottom specs suck at everything and their "strength" reaches middle of the pack on 1 or 2 fights at best...

(Prinsoph) #657
They moved a couple talents around.......

this is what we get after waiting for months? You ignore EVERY bit of feedback the community gave you. WTF is wrong with this company

(Madalot) #658
11/13/2018 12:23 PMPosted by Prinsoph
They moved a couple talents around.......

this is what we get after waiting for months? You ignore EVERY bit of feedback the community gave you. WTF is wrong with this company


Pretty much my thoughts.
Hope class dev's get fired.

(Kabbie) #659
I still think lightning spells castable on moving would be the game changer elemental shaman need.

Hell, Blizzard loves mobile, so why not give some to shaman - do you people not have totems?

(Superlurker) #660
Is Synapse Shock going to be replaced? It's both a horribly undertuned and very boring trait.

(Jazôn) #661
make lava burst spread flame shock on targets at least