Okay, then explain to me what metric actually matters. and if its some version of “idk this what my gut instinct thinks is right” im just going to block you. because we both know your gut instinct doesnt matter to anyone but you.
the metric that matters is multifaceted like i said. it would be a combination of representation, highest current rated individual, and also the strength of a spec’s partner specs (so in ele’s case lock, boomy, war, ww mainly)
the point being you cannot simply look at a representation metric and discern viability.
ESPECIALLY when this thread is likely not about tourny viability, rather it’s just some dude asking if his class is viable, which it certainly is by any metric.
Okay, so lets break that down.
Spec represenation above duelist (2100) is ~16th .
Highest current rated individual Imcaprise at 2764 and 119th on the ladder (us because i cant figure out where to go for EU ladder)
strength of partners specs… Lock (bad) Boomy (amazing) Warrior (overpowered) Windwalker (amazing) So besides lock being bad, it seems like Ele’s partners are very very strong…
Seems by your own metric that ele is garbo.
i cant put links in my post i tried to link you the EU ladder, where ele is doing much better than on NA, #6 spot is ele, as well as having 13 total players above 2700
murk. io is out of date for eu it seems
still not impressive. 13 above 2700? no thats pretty awful.
Also you’re lying about 13, the number is 9 elementals above 2700.
dont inflate your numbers when i can easily check it my dude.
that’s actually very good, you nkow there’s only 20 warriors above 2700 in EU?
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are u getting that from the official wow page or some third party site?
9 vs 21.
dont skew your numbers to make your point seem more impressive.
yeah, having half the numbers of warrior is not impressive. less than half. just stop. and i thought you said rep meant nothing.
not only are you lying, not only does the actual numbers back me up, not only do you disagree with represenation ONLY WHEN ITS USED AGAINST YOU, but you just are dumb and your transmog sucks.
LOL i got it from the wow ladder page buddy i know ur frustrated and coping this entire thread but lets not bring my legendary mog into it k?
ELE IS TRASH its GARBO totally UNPLAYABLE, there, are you happy? Now you can go back to ur coping
i think your confusing enh and resto in your ele searches lmfao.
its not unplayable. its just not even close to fire mages its not even close to shadow priests. its closer to affliction than either of those.
Yeah no.
Wrong
Maybe you don’t remember cata or mop very well
Who are you to decide if my opinion/memory is right or wrong? The reason why I want them back so much is precisely BECAUSE I remember them VERY effing well compared to the dumpster fire we have right now, and I know I’m not the only one who shares the love for Cata & MoP.
You cannot tell me that those 2 masterpiece expansions were just as bad/worse as what we got right now, otherwise it’s clearly YOU that doesn’t remember them very well ESPECIALLY if you actually think it was only 1 comp that was played in Cata. Stop.
Every team in cata was lock / resto / x. Except thug and triple dps. But the ladder was literally 25+% resto shamans.
And mop was complained about just as hard as anything in shadowlands. Stampede bm. Frostbomb meatball inception symbiosis.
I bet you don’t remember chaos wave two shotting entire teams. People could 1v3.
I bet you don’t remember God comp when fear and cyclone were on separate drs.
What about arcane mages with infinite spells teal mana?
Skillcap was still high enough for any comp to push to any desired rating. Sure, locks and rshams were very strong more than most, but back in those days every single class was… not “broken” but incredibly strong in its own way and it simply depended on the players back then, instead of a player just getting carried by the game & lack of skillcap which is the case currently if they play arms warrior or ret pal.
Class design, PvP gearing, having time to react to a potential 1 shot, alt friendly-ness, and atmosphere is everything that was loved about MoP and hated in shadowlands, or just doesn’t exist in shadowlands.
BM hunters weren’t even that big of a deal after 5.2 when people simply realized to just CC the pet(s), which just enabled most hunters being marksman or survival.
Never saw mage use Fbomb after 5.1, since then it was Living Bomb. Symbiosis was a beautiful talent that was appreciated by everyone especially druids of course.
Demo was an extremely high skillcapped but viable warlock spec in MoP. If people lost a 3v1 to one, the lock was a god.
I do crystal clearly. Rotate trinkets & dispels correctly (for fears ofc) and it wasn’t much of an issue. A huge annoyance, yes, but beatable.
Arcane mage was also an extremely high skillcapped spec, if not the highest in the game, which is why there were very VERY few players that made it work above 2.2k mmr and that was including The Law himself. Everyone knew to immediately shutdown an arcane mage during MoP and it was easier to do that to them compared to fire & especially frost spec.
I made this thread to just ask about shaman viability, not get into an argument about the obvious reasons why pretty much any xpac was better than the current especially Cata & MoP, that’s for a different category.
If you’re gonna continue defending keklands while crapping on ones everyone else literally knows were better with your invalid points, I’m just gonna disregard you. Bye
Lol. Mitch was not the arcane mage to watch ABN was the arcane god. Still is too but hes name changed to something elon musk would name his character.
I apologize. Apparently you remember everything crystal clear but everyone complained about every single one of those things relentlessly. On par with anything they complain about now. Thats just how it goes. Its called “recency bias”