Itâs still two different games, NOT two shards.
Classic and the major BFA patch do not need to b released at separate times to get people to play every day and âkeep subs upâ.
Letâs say that Blizzard launches classic and a major BFA content patch at the same time.
Letâs say that the retail player about which you seem to be so concerned plays every day until the have consumed all the new BFA content. At that point they have classic available to them to consume. They can play every day consuming that classic content.
Oh, when the next major BFA patch drops, theyâll just stop playing classic and consume that new BFA content, after which they will flock back to classic.
Nonlinear parallel. Completely different subjects.
2 different games, yes. 2 different shards, yes.
Saying it slowly: 1⌠infra⌠structureâŚ
Their load is the same. Doesnât matter which game we log into.
Two different games is NOT two different shards, no matter how much you wish to misrepresent them as such.
Were Stormreaver and Stormscale just two different shards in vanilla? they both used the same infrastructure, after all.
Theyâre not going to do that because they will want to report as high as numbers possible for Classic WoW on release.
Also Blizzard now panders to streamers and the top 1% in pvp/pve. I canât see them putting pressure on their âfreeâ publicity.
Umm, you are the one trying to make it sound like thatâs what I am saying. It is not.
1 shard on a game + 1 shard on a different game. Both shards on the same infrastructure.
Itâs not complicated.
I am not looking to score points or gain supporters.
My point of view is simply this: I could give a ratâs rectum if people want to play both games. I want to play vanilla/classic⌠period. I do not want my experience of playing something I have been waiting over a decade for diminished because someone getting to play it for ZERO additional expenditure, literally getting it for free with their existing sub to a different game. The shark has already been jumped by blizzard twice: combined subs and announcing a release window. I will lose approximately 0 sleep if players of modern WoW actually have to make a choice between which game they are playing on release day.
So yeah, please tell me exactly why I should care a whit:
Nothing whatsoever would block modern retail players from playing classic. It is merely a choice of what to do the first couple days, and a couple days of less tourists at classicâs release would be HUGELY important toward making classic server populations healthy.
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Blizzard doesnât care which version of wow youâre playing, so long as youâre playing WoW and actively subscribed.
All pushing classic out during a major content patch for BfA will do is cripple peopleâs desire and opportunity to try both.
Instead, itâs almost a guarantee that Classic launches during BfAâs biggest post patch slump, there by ensuring the maximum number of people actually even try Classic.
As for dealing with launch day stress, there are other ways to do that, that are much simpler. For example, launch it 11:59pm on a Tuesday.
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People with jobs are barely going to be able to do more than reserve a name.
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Neckbeards will play all night and power through the first zone or two by the end of business on Wednesday
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Super casuals/weekenders wonât even be on until Friday, meaning neckbeards will already be past 40, and people whoâve been playing a couple hours a night are at least in the 15-20 range.
Congrats, I just spread out your launch day problems without sharding or sabotaging a large chunk of Classicâs playerbase by trying to ensure they donât even try it.
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What you are saying is not complicated, but what point you are trying to make is. So what if both games are on the same infrastructure? What does that have to do with anything?
Going back to your original question of âwhat about people who intend to play both?â what about them? They can still play both either way. No one outside of a very few no lifers will have the time to dedicate to both games. Everyone else who intends to play both will ultimately choose one over the other. A main and an alt if you will.
People who main BfA would play the BfA patch first, and then create a character in classic later. People who main classic will be in the initial lvling wave at launch, and will check out the most recent BfA content later. That is the whole point of having classic launch at the same time as a major BfA patch.
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It remains to be seen whether classic and a major BFA content patch will be released concurrently or at a different times.
Until such time as Blizzard makes that decision and advises us as to what they decided, Iâll continue to advocate that classic be released concurrent with a major BFA content patch.
Hooray, yet another idea that punishes those who have been waiting for over a decade for vanilla/classic.
Former subscribers are not the only ones who have been waiting though. And I think WoW has always launched at midnight?
SAd part is that there wonât be a major patch for BFA that could be released in time, well maybe 8.3, or a 8.2.5, course then when in Summer is Classic, early or late, I imagine the next update will give an idea, maybe,lol
We donât know yet.
Blizzard could easily push back patch 8.2. Would players be happy about that? Probably not, but when in recent history has Blizzard actually cared about the players? Blizzard has recently been following the philosophy of âitâs easier to get forgiveness than permissionâ.
Blizzard could also time the classic release with another BFA patch.
All we can do is to wait and see what they choose to do.
His point is it doesnât matter if there is 9 million players on classic and 1 million on BfA vs 5 million in classic and 5 million in BfA when classic launches. It will cost Blizzard the same and it will bring in the same sub revenue.
There isnât any sensible argument to launch concurrently with a major BfA patch. With sharding, it doesnât matter how many people play on launch day, you will only see a small subset of players in your shard. Just like it doesnât matter how many people are playing BfA that day.
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Irony crits you over 9000.
You know whats slightly more important than you being ever so slightly inconvenienced on launch day?
Actually getting a large enough population of people playing classic long term for sustainabilityâŚ
You best accomplish that by actually selling Classic to retail players, and you best accomplish that by releasing Classic at a point in time when retail players are most likely to play⌠then keeping their respective content patches similarly staggered so that players are constantly incentivized to bounce back and forth.
YOU may not like the idea of crowding being a thing at launch, but that is an entirely YOU problem, born out of pure self sabotaging selfishness. Thereâs an important concept to understand here, but Pserver people arenât nearly as important as theyâve deluded themselves into believing. Worldwide population numbers for all the pservers they can sustain about 5 maybe 10 servers total longer term. Thatâs barely a drop in the bucket, compared to how many potential people Classic could win over by getting the retailers hooked on it.
If you want Classic to succeed, you want as many of those retailers having nothing better to do for a week or two than come play in Classic, and get addicted to the WoW-Crack⌠All that releasing it the same time as a BfA content patch does is ensure Retailers are too busy playing BfA to bother with classic, while thereâs any hype around the product.
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push back 8.2 for 3 months or longer? No way, its going up on the PTR pretty quick here, weâll be getting it by April/May ish, but yah I agree with your take on their recent history,lol.
yah 8.3, or 8.2.5 would satisfy, I guess this is my way of wanting some kind of update on Classic too.
I honestly wouldnât be surprised if Blizzard pushes Classic all the way until a month after the last mythic raid in BfA has already been out for a month.
Very good point (had I specified former subscribers). I myself am a former subscriber, but no those waiting over a decade are not limited to such.
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