If you were so successful people would not be debating you lol.
See this is the inconsistency, the Nightborne were there but you absolve them from blame
“Breaking” the world was a solution to the “Dooming” of the world problem.
You blame the Modern Kaldorei for the solution but don’t blame the Modern Shaldorei and Queldorei for the mistakes of Ancient Kaldorei that all Kaldorei, Shaldorei, Queldorei belong to.
Its just biased.
If you were at least consistent with your logic then I doubt this thread would be 200 posts long.
I guess my main issue is where one says “the Kaldorei” did something. Some people, who happen to be part of the group of people who are “Kaldorei”, “blew up the world”. Not every Kaldorei, let alone their descendants (whether they keep the original name or not) were involve.
I am not lampooning anything but as you previously said. If anyone disagrees with you that means you are invited to be disagreeable to them.
I have said what I have said and been as clear as I can. You keep trying to put words in my mouth and you perceive that as “lampooning”.
I will state it again. Blowing up the world was a solution to a problem caused by others.
You are blaming a modern group for the crimes of an ancient group who have since evolved and are under a different name.
To me at least. “The” Kaldorei implies the race as a whole. And hence leads to the issue of racial responsibility. Its an important word. Different than, IMO, “some” Kaldorei.
Just like Aki you are hyper focused on your biased interpretation. You aren’t convincing anyone hence the +200 posts of you going round and round trying to convince people of your limited and biased interpretation.
If that brings joy to your life then be my guest.
Once again blaming the solution rather than the cause
Literally everyone knows the lore about the Sundering here so who are you trying to convince or persuade? Its just so weird.
You are intelligent enough to know what is being said to you, its intent and their purpose. Doing this little song and dance does nothing useful.
I have clearly stated what I am on about. I could not be more clear.
And honestly neither can anyone else, any good faith discussion with you on this topic has become impossible because you are unable to discuss anything in good faith or logically if any words are said beyond or deviate from “Kaldorei” “Blown Up” “World”.
Context? Lore? Pah! who needs them right?
Feel free to quote that out of context too for your internet argument win since it means so much to you
Nonsense. We could have a good faith discussion about the canon lore fact that kaldorei blew up the world if you wanted it. You do not want good faith discussion, though. You are intent on trying to wrap any blame for the actions of kaldorei present at the sundering onto others who were either bubbled away (Nightborne) or not even born yet (Blood Elves).
I love how people talk about “good faith” discussions while they try to contort the lore to fit their narratives. It reminds me of Sylvanas discussions during BfA. Someone told me they can not have a good faith discussion with me about executing Sylvanas for her crimes - well, yeah, because that premise starts off on bad faith. Like your attempt to pawn off the actions of kaldorei involved with the sundering to others.
It is the lore that kaldorei caused the sundering.
How is it possible to have a good faith discussion? From my very first post I already explained all this.
You keep saying Kaldorei blew the world.
You add no context, no reasoning or any nuance the story that was told.
You just allude to it was something bad and Malfurion who pressed the doomsday button is somehow finally getting his come uppance in DF.
And you refuse any nuance of how Shaldorei or Queldorei were involved.
If I wanted to be facetious i would say the ones that opened the demon gates and doomed azeroth to planetwide extinction once called themselves QuelDorei.
Who once called themselves QuelDorei? The SinDorei.
Checkmate athiest I win.
I don’t do that because its short sighted, limited in scope and nuance.
They were kaldorei Queldorei. Not Sindorei or Blood Elves.
So if your point is kaldorei blew up the world, and not Blood Elves… I have been saying that.
And it just proves my point that kaldorei caused the sundering, as those Queldorei you mentioned were kaldorei.
I mentioned that Malfurion is a kaldorei but not a highborne Queldorei kaldorei. So saying only the highborne were involved is wrong. Various strata of kaldorei society were involved.
And that Azshara and her highborne were kaldorei, at the time, as well.
Nope. They were pretty adamant that they were different, they refused to call themselves Kaldorei. They called themselves Queldorei so… why would I change that? The story seems clear in how they preferred to be referred as.
Nope. They called themselves Queldorei.
Not Kaldorei queldorei.
Just queldorei.
Just because they look kaldorei doesnt mean they were kaldorei. Thats pretty racist man.
