Dungeon Deserter

This needs to be addressed somehow…getting kicked from a dungeon and blocked from queueing for 30 minutes is just ridiculous at this stage of the game.

Context: me lvl 82 tank is out dpsing all 3 dps combined in a normal cata dungeon so i asked the lvl 85 rogue if hes afk or what as all were white hits. vote to kick afk rogue doesnt go through. then i get kicked 2 packs later and when i questioned the people in the group one of the other dps said they started the vote for “uncalled for flaming”.

Is that the community now just dont interact with anyone otherwise you cant play the game.

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Sounds like you were toxic and got kicked.

:man_shrugging:

I’ve been kicked from 0 dungeons leveling and gearing 4 85’s, 2 warriors, a dk, and a rogue. 0 kicks in wrath too, had 2 warriors, dk, rogue, hpal.

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if asking why a lvl 85 dps is only white hitting is toxic and kick worthy you’re part of the problem. and congratulations on your 4 85’s i have several more than that, have been kicked in the past and have voted to kick others and none of them deserve a 30 minute deserter

I mean what do you expect to happen? You complain in chat, calling someone out, and you get kicked for it. They decided they’d rather wait for another tank than play with you. Sounds like system working as intended.

If you don’t want to play with bads don’t yolo queue rdf by yourself. Otherwise… welcome to RDF I guess? A bit late to be getting the introduction but hey we all start somewhere.

so the options are tolerate someone literally only right clicking npcs in group content or get slapped with a 30 minute you cant play debuff?

Well what do you suggest? Get rid of it?

Because we have a perfectly working example of what happens when punishment doesn’t fit the crime in RMT/Gold buying. People buy gold and IF they get caught they get a 2 week suspension and maybe lose the gold/items they bought. And then people wonder why there’s such an insane RMT issue.

30 minute deserter is more than reasonable. You’re in a group with people you don’t know and will likely never see again. Simply throw the vote to kick with note “only auto attacking”, if it gets veto’d move on. Complaining in chat is just going to make people openly hostile. Which is why you got what you got. Literally go quest, it’s not like you’re prevented from playing the game. Take a break, get some food, go for a walk if that’s what you need.

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If you have to talk then it’s no fun. Muh opinion.

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Exactly. 20 year old dungeons. It’s already cruise control and 98% of the time the other 4 people in the group are mouthbreathers. No reason to get upset over the windowlicker you get 1% of the time.

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Welcome to Classic, where toxic trolls are empowered and normal players given the boot.

You’ve said before you enjoy nothing in Cata. You never answer when I ask why don’t you run lower difficulty dungeons instead of complaining about H+, and anything not oHh-GeE. I genuinely hope you learn how to have fun someday.

sounds like you got legitimately kicked so what seems to be the problem here?

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tank doing all the damage asks why a max level is only white hitting gets kicked and debuffed for 30 minutes thats legitimate and how the system should work to you? Also note before i could even ask the healer why, they were out of the instance and left once my kick went through so tell me more how this system is good?

So what would you replace it with? Also tank doing all the damage is normal. You have vengeance in cata brother.

if the kick goes through why the 30 minute additional penalty. what stops a group from queueing as 3 people and just getting people debuffs?

Blockquote You have vengeance in cata brother.

so what? that doesnt give a tank more damage than all 3 dps combined including a lvl 85. brother are you not reading any of this?

So with no leaver penalty what do you think happens? People already auto-leave deadmines with the penalty. Now people can queue up, decide they don’t like anything ranging from group comp, competition on items, the dungeon they got, the gear level of players in the group, etc etc etc, and just leave. No penalty.

Or, no penalty for getting kicked only? Fine, now people join groups and intentionally grief until kicked. Then immediately requeue and do it again.

Why are you people crying about dungeon kicks so shortsighted and stupid?

What’s stopping a group of 2 with no penalties from queuing up as tank heal and just insta leaving dungeons over and over?

Like, in the time it took you to write this post, you could’ve come up with an actual ATTEMPT at a solution. Maybe the penalty would be better at 20 minutes. Or 15. But you didn’t even try. You hopped on here, made a thread to cry because you’re toxic and got kicked for it, and then suggested they remove the penalty for being toxic.

you dont think technology allows for a debuff to differentiate between getting kicked and insta leaving?

why is asking a lvl 85 why hes white hitting toxic? very first reply to you knew you were the problem. not everything needs to be a safe space man its group content and people should be able to get called out for greifing.

Because it’s none of your business? You’re in a leveling dungeon. Maybe the 85 is queued with his friend while doing stuff around the house? Does it matter? Is it impacting your ability to clear the dungeon? Is he being hostile to you or anyone in the group?

If the answer to all of the above is no, then be quiet and play. You’ll play with people in 85 twilight heroics who are borderline griefing just by how god awful they are. The consequence there is that you can’t clear the dungeon. The consequence in your leveling dungeon is it takes slightly longer. Get over yourself. You brought things on yourself by complaining in the chat, and I’m going to bet you weren’t nice about it either. Which is exactly why you were kicked.

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the answer to that all is literally yes?

Also, I appreciate you blockquoting my entire post despite not having read it where I even specifically covered how you could be griefed by people if it was just a kick penalty. I’m sure it would never be an issue though. Surely your tank couldn’t just queue up and sit afk for any reason they desire. And if you kick them they just requeue nbd. Do it to another group. Why not, there’s no penalty for doing so.

You weirdo’s cry about “Toxic behavior” of being kicked from dungeons and then suggest opening pandora’s box to unleash the most god awful toxic behavior.

You want a real solution to your problems with dungeon players? Stop solo queuing them. And stop queuing them months after the bulk of the playerbase is done with them. Do all your dungeon stuff in the first week or two and then never go back. It’s how I avoid all of you. I hit 85 on this warrior literally day 1, less than 2 hours behind the server first 85. I was done in heroic pre-bis gearing for arms and prot by day 5. While my guildies complained about competition and bad players in their dungeons for weeks I farmed and casually leveled alts and did bg’s for fun.

Considering this was a normal, non-heroic dungeon, there is a good chance the rogue was a fresh 85 and not hit capped. This would explain the low dps, and is largely unavoidable. Even if the rogue reforged to all hit, you will likely still be well below the hit cap with leveling gear. The only fix for this is better gear, which means doing dungeons.