6 ilvl difference in favor of the WW axe, slightly better speed on Corpsemaker, 6 Less stam.
Except blizz hard already put a massive hole in your testimony with hard numbers and facts in an earlier post.
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This. Unlike many, apparently, I remember vanilla WoW and I also remember that I liked it because it was easier than EQ or even SWG. It was as tedious but I could do at least something without spending hours to research. WoW was always an extremely easy game to get into.
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Because theyâre using 1.12 as the foundation of the entire game.
They said at blizzcon that they do, they just spent 2 years figuring out exactly which patch they were gonna use and guess what? itâs not 1.1 nor 1.11
Says you. Alot of people would disagree with you. I prefer classic to BFA but thatâs like running a race against a cripple.
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Theyâve done multiple things outside of 1.12. Including a few changes and holding back some gear until later that was available before 1.12.1. Itâs not out of the realm of possibility to make dungeons non faceroll
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Theyâre tuned exactly as they were in 1.12. Are you asking for them to change more things? Where do we stop then?
And those are some of the peoples that weâre screaming ââ#NOCHANGEââ not that long ago lol.
Now dungeon are too ââEasyââ gotta change them!!! :â)
Even if a blue did show proof they weâre rights.
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Rogue from 2006. SM GY.
The normal Scarlet mobs hits him in 50-70 range melee. While the non-elites in the crypt hits him in the ~30 range (some well below as well) The haunting Phantasm in the 40-50 range. He resist all spells though, so hard to say regarding the bosses.
I didnât play rogue back then, so have no idea what kind of mitigation they should have approx. at level 60.
The same mobs hits Toweliee in the same range as a level 30 two-handed tank.
Skip video to 3:54:35 approx.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/428228426
Dunno what to make of it, since as said, I have no idea what kind of armour or mitigation a level 60 rogue would have.
Whats the problem with Blizz doing thorough comparison across multiple mobs in multiple dungeons even if there is no hard evidence? After all itâs few hours of work for a single novice tester to do super thorough test. Where is the harm?
Look folks the bottom line here is if you think thereâs a bug, give actual evidence not âI remember it being harderâ and expect to be taken seriously.
Blizzard has stated that they have an actual 1.12 client (so not the one we are getting) in house which they are using to verify things. If they say itâs accurate based on their testing with that client, who the hell are you to say otherwise? Especially when you provide no evidence other than memory or, god forbid, private server data which is known to be faulty.
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I healed through rfc and wc, and thought it seemed fine. The tank took relatively little damage, but they were appropriately geared tanks. Other players who pulled aggro soaked up plenty of mana.
Anyway, in original vanilla, in an early patch, we had a shaman in our group tank everything up to mara. ZF was really the first one you need to start looking at actual tanks for.
While Classic isnât strict 1.12, all of the content weâre getting IS in its 1.12 version when we get it though. Thatâs my point.
Items added in 1.10 might not arrive until later, but the itemization changes are not being held off. Anything that had its stats changed during Vanilla will start off with the stats it had in 1.12.
Blizzard has never shown any indication theyâre willing to re-tune things with inauthentic numbers just for the sake of preserving the difficulty our 15 year old memories feel the game should have.
Plus they could have completely authentic 1.1 and their Deadmines test would have gone exactly the same. The mob didnât have its damage altered, they didnât change armour DR in Vanilla, and even the talent revamp didnât change how much DR a level 20 Warrior can get from talents.
Low level dungeons were not that difficult, guys. Itâs usually the higher level dungeons that caused problems. Even then, it wasnât really the trash, it was the bosses.
Sunken Temple was cake until Eranikus. Mara was cake until Princess. Uldaman had that final boss. EtcâŠ
ZF was a step up in difficulty. One of the only mildly difficult 5 man dungeons imo.
I also have noticed that just by watching people run dungeons. Something is way off with the damage mobs are doing.
Eh the trash still does not seem to take long enough to down.
Notice that the people who are vehemently defending 1.12 are some of the same posters who wanted changes like class balance?
True but itâs all relative. What weâre seeing now is almost retail like. And some people like it that way. Itâs too bad really.
Because itâs the overall experience that counts. Itâs beyond numbers. The assumption (not mine) with no changers, was that dungeons would be more difficult (not necessarily hard) than they are now. Now, itâs almost like Retail.
I was fighting for a patch that was harder than 1.12. Most everyone else wanted an accurate 1.12 and something not as relatively difficult. But i donât think anyone imagined weâd be getting ⊠this.
Well peoples didnât imagine that they weâre gonna get this. Iâd say maybe a few thought so.
But since classic been announced all i had to mind was⊠What if itâs easyier than everyone remember ? Then here we are talking about it.
Memory isnât reliable. Not after that many years. I still remember WoW being some insanely hard game and even more when you started raiding. But at the time i was a 13-15yo kids with not that much knowledge on MMO outside a bit of Ultima Online/The 4th coming.
Im now 27yo, iâve played a friggin loads of MMO since then, im used about how to play them. So im not entirely surprised about people managing to faceroll content.
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