truth was a good run cheers
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It works because its your alt
People who can’t discuss ideas and go straight discussing the person in the discussion should be removed from the debate.
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If you feel that way, use the tool as you wish. I have been engaging in the thread discussing the topic in question.
If you start flagging people because they disagree with you, that tells me a LOT about what kind environment you grew up and where you live.
Try to not harass other people just because they disagree with you.
And both of you are brigadding here… don’t complain later.
“you and your main” lmfao
OK so you decided on the alt theory in the end, not the me getting other people to come back up my arguments?
And again, the same sad person lost all arguments and started personal attacks.
I guess they can’t argue enough about dual-spec at all.
Going back to my main argument: dual-spec doesn’t resolve any problem we currently have in the game.
Re-spec costs are non-issue.
The Tanking problem you suggested is not resolved by dual-spec. It was mainly “solved” when they added the Call to Arms system:
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Call_to_Arms_(dungeon)
Please note that it was added AFTER dual-spec, and even so, DPS would still wait a lot time to get in the queue. Some people would even bribe a tank to jump the queue, while they would queue together and and the tank would leave.
If anything, what I’m saying is: stop masquerading the arguments for dual spec. The real reason is: people don’t want to pay the re-specs and want to have it free. That is the sole reason. There is no other reason to add dual spec.
So, when we start talking about true arguments without hiding behind the problems we have in the game, we can debate the real needs and whether the re-spec costs are an issue or not.
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Dual spec doesn’t even help the tank shortage. The same mechanism that allows players to easily switch into tank spec also allows players to switch out of tank spec.
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wat, this makes literally no sense as an argument against dual spec
people will obviously spec into whatever spec they need to to round out a party?
It doesn’t make any argument against dual spec.
It clears out the fallacy that Dual spec resolves the tank shortage. It doesn’t and it didn’t resolve it in the past.
none here claims DS solve anything. Tanks shortage is not a binary problem to be solved.
and cost is a thing.
You are wrong
People are using the exactly argument here.
It is a non-issue, unless you don’t play the game.
So are you
Respec costs are a non issue lmao.
On mega servers prices are reaching crazy levels for everything. Adding a bunch of respec costs each week means I have to go farm if I want to respec for PvP or want to tank a heroic on my warrior, which in the end I (and most other people) just won’t do because having to do mandatory chores to get to have a bit of fun or help a friend out is stupid af.
Not everyone played classic and is sitting on 20k gold from GDKP’s. No dual spec is strangling the life out of the game and it’s pretty easy to see that.
Also reading through this thread “warriors don’t need to respec to tank” what lmao? Not every character is 10/10 T5 and decked out. My warrior alt wouldn’t even reach defence cap without talents. You seem to struggle to look at a situation from anyones perspective but your own.
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This would help the game so much. Its so hard to find a group for anything
Here, fixed it for you.
Noone has said that it solves the tank/healer shortage.
But it 100% does increase the number of people who would tank/heal which is better than nothing.
I love the people using the lie that it helps the tank/healer shortage.
There isnt a shortage for good players in a healthy community. It’s the bad pugs that have a hard time finding them or the dead realms (and the fix there is blizzard actually addressing dead realms, not dual spec).
The argument they are trying to push for dual spec is equivalent to the “think of the children” fallacy. They are emotion grabbing and the saddest part is some of them don’t even realize it.
The lack of tanks and healers is a sign you have a bad server reputation (or none at all), are on a dead/dieing server, or are playing at non peak times. The one time I have bought a tank was at 11pm trying to rush a healer friend through his attunement dungeon quests so he could raid the next day and most of the tanks I know were off for the night or busy. Got that tank to do 3 dungeons with us and the initial price I offered was 50g per, he saw it was a good group and we sped through the dungeons and gave a discount of 50g at the end, not charging for the last dungeon (I piad 25 at the start the other 25 at the end, he didn’t charge for the last dungeon).
And after that, that tank has hit me up a few times to dps groups he is in when he is looking for a dps.
Skill and behavior effect how willing people are to play with you, if you’re a jerk or a non talker people might not want you back if you treat needing them like an inconvenience or a chore. Treat people like people, it helps a lot.
But this all boils down to, dual spec will not fix a community problem. Being an active part of the community will.
ye, reputation and community will conjure more tanks/healers out of thin air. You are dense. One tank for you means less tank for others. DS will help inject more tank/heals into the system. Yes, think for the other children please.
Other than that, it also helps people with hybrid class. Imagine playing solo with heal or prot specs. It’s terrible. I do respec, but I would love it to be cheaper.
ye. dual spec will conjure more tanks/healers out of thin air.
it will. I will DS tank and heal. You have problem?