Dual spec please

Except another design intention is to get people to participate in the content. And what largely played into adding dual spec was to further that design goal.

You still have absolute zero proof of this yet keep parroting it lmao

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A good faith argument would lay out rational arguments as to how they are laden with fallacy. /shrug I never lie, spin, or obfuscate here. I don’t think anyone here is my friend or ever will be so I don’t care if I “win” the argument or if anyone here respects or likes me. There is no reward for “winning” here from complete strangers so I just tell the truth as I see it. You don’t. While you don’t lie often as the redheadchild does your favorite tool is obfuscation and spin. Those are the tools someone who wants to “win” the debate use in an attempt to fool the readers or judges. An official debate can be a good faith discussion but usually it’s not since it’s a scored contest with a winner by the judge’s score cards. I think “winning” the debate is your primary goal, not good faith discussion

If you even had any desire to educate yourself on debate and good faith arguments you should watch Sam Harris and others debating religion and atheism. There are more than a dozen such debates. That would give you many examples of logic, rational argumentation and good faith arguments and when the arguments are not made in good faith.

They literally made the announcement that dual spec was coming during TBC.

citation needed

Also saying it’s coming in WOTLK (they didn’t, you’re full of it) does nothing to prove that they wanted it in TBC.

That would have been proven by, you know, adding it during TBC.

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You are welcome to go watch the blizzcon that it happened in.

I’ve watched the video you think supports your claim, and that is not what they said.

God you are embarrassing.

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Yes yes you are.

HALP. I can’t with this kid.

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Any evidence/facts/math I have ever brought up to you has been dismissed, misrepresented, or just called a lie by you. You are not arguing in good faith, you don’t want facts, quotes, citations, exc.

You want to meet your agenda, I’m done pulling up any information for you until you shows you are done arguing in bad faith.

I’m still waiting for you to let me know if the average of 11 minutes and 10 minutes would meet the requirements to be “about 10 minutes”. You can’t even answer that in good faith, so there’s no point in giving you more information for you to handwave away or misrepresent, then turn back to try and use to slander me.

You don’t discuss things, you push your agenda.

An assertion with out any evidence or even a rational argument followed by an insult. That’s your typical behavior.

So blizzard made the announcement about world of warcraft being a game when warcraft 3 was the game.

Does that mean warcraft 3 reforged should be changed to resemble wow instead of warcraft 3?
It was announced when warcraft 3 was THE warcraft game right? So it’s part of warcraft 3 going by your logic.

Still 100% wholesale supporting of Dual Specc regardless of the naysayers. :slight_smile:

Sure, but to be a match of your average claim it would have to occur over several days and to match your statement that you can do 2-3 dailies. some of those days you should be able to do 3 dailies in the same amount of time, about 10 minutes. 2-3 dailies in an average of about 10 minutes means some days you can do just the fishing and cooking dailies and some days you do them plus the bombing daily for an average of about 10 minutes

He’s not even telling the truth about the video in question.

Someone from the audience asked about a multi-spec possibility near the end of TBC at an open QnA, and the dev responds with “were looking in to it”.

But he comes on here and says “they said they were planning to add dual spec in TBCC!!!”.

He calls US liars lmao.

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Nah, they didn’t - literally. The announcement was made at the start of WoTLK and it was released about 6 (or 8?) months in with tier 8, secrets of ulduar. You’re just creating “facts” to fit your narrative.

Your commitment to WoTLK as a proving ground for TBC classic features has always been wrongheaded. Not everyone playing TBC classic is treating it as a WoTLK classic waiting room like you seem to be.

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The assertion without any evidence came from Ziryus…

The reason he won’t post the video is because it directly contradicts what he’s claiming it says.

Ironically, Ziryus is the biggest liar of us all lol.

Not to mention that 2-3 dailies a day doesn’t come anywhere near to his claim that you can easily support frequent spec switches with just a few minutes of dailies. That’s barely enough to support a single back and forth swap once.

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are we talking about retail dailies or TBC dailies? Because like… TBC dailies give like … 9 and some change gold each don’t they? You’d need to at least do 5-6 dailies to pay for one respecc at 50g

I know retail dailies give like 300g a day or more. :thinking:

For perspective doing a full set of ogri/sketti dailies takes ~30 minutes and gets you ~70g. So not enough to do a full spec swap and back. Now you could throw a dungeon daily in and you MIGHT break even, of course then you’re into an hour/hour 15+ just to break even on your spec swaps.