Dual spec please

Specifically to you, me and others have already done this months ago…many, many times.

I bear no shame telling you to shove your requests squarely in to the same hole that new or dissenting information you read seems to go :woman_shrugging:

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Every argument made by any of the people you listed were refuted with other points equally as valid as your own that you seemingly continue to ignore by either not directly addressing them or saying something along the lines of “but it would cause issues” and then not elaborating on it.

I read the thread. You don’t have anything substantial so now you’re just lingering on the precedent of denying the possibility that dual spec might not be as big of an issue as you, or anyone else in this thread, make it out to be. The fact is, searching your name in the search bar for this thread only pulls up replies in which you were simply flaming people you disagreed with.

If it’s an imbalance reason or the concern that people will freely swap specs mid-content, put on a cooldown. Hybrid specs won’t be erased by the inclusion of dual spec if the cooldown exists.

Anyways, that’ll be it for me. The last thing I’ll say is that I don’t really care if they add it or not. I want them to add it but I wouldn’t lose my mind if it wasn’t.

Maybe take a step away from the game if you’re this invested in it.

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There are other posts that we engaged on this topic months ago on, in-depth.

Just because you’re too lazy to do your homework correctly doesn’t mean arguments haven’t been made.

When you make the same arguments double digit number of times, and the same people do nothing but handwave or dismiss them in bad faith over and over, it’s not a wonder that we’re no longer interested in trying…again to reach through that mud bucket in some kind of insane attempt to believe that this time, you’ll respond to the arguments in good faith.

The fact of the matter is this, I have no confidence that you are even able to argue in dual specs benefit competently. You’ve already made a completely false argument (that dual specs inclusion is negligible since gold is somehow already worthless).

I’m not exactly brimming with hope that you have any other bright, or gasp may even new arguments to bring to the table that we haven’t already buried in to the ground. You wouldn’t know about that though, because as I already observed, you’re kinda new to this discussion and seem to lack the ability to tell the truth about actually doing research on the arguments that have already been made…on either side.

Haha…you don’t even know how much I play…and you asked me to step away from the game, funny :sweat_smile:

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Pro tip, this is a video game we play for fun.

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Dual specs makes the game fun. MAKE SURE IT’S NEVER ADDED SO THAT THE EXPERIENCE IS AS GRUELING AS IT WAS IN 2007.

WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS A SECOND JOB, NOT A VIDEO GAME.

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Games can have other objectives as part of their existence other than purely to be fun.

Being difficult.

Being profound.

Being controversial.

Game don’t always just exist for fun.

In TBCC’s case, it exists to be fun like any other game, but also exists to be an authentic recreation of original TBC.

You are allowed to have both, but you can’t change something that fulfills one condition and contradicts the other.

None of these are at odds with a game being fun. They aren’t exclusive philosophies.

If it was meant to be a recreation of the original TBC then that mark was missed ages ago. Pushing hard on the “authenticity” point is a waste of everyone’s time when level 58 boosts, paid mounts and cosmetics, and mage boosts run rampant. There are nerfs and buffs that have been hotfixed and patched into the game that never existed in the original game.

If this were an authentic recreation, none of these would be there.

But you know what? Despite all that, it still feels like TBC.

I am once again asking for Dual Spec

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It’s not a black and white issue, there is a spectrum here, and the goal is to keep it from sliding further down the “not authentic” side of the scale.

Did I support boosts and paid mounts? No, but Blizzard added that in before the game even launched without any feedback from the community to guide that decision, so none of us had any choice in the matter.

One could also argue that 58 boosts affected the game irreparably, too.

However, I usually will quit a game using the “death by 1000 cuts” method, meaning it’s never one single thing that forces me away, but the impact of many poor choices all added together.

I got past boosts, I got past the mounts and the other things. Could it be possible that I would get past the addition of dual spec? Possibly.

It doesn’t mean I think it should be added, though.

In any case, it’s almost invariably likely that it won’t be, so it’s a moot point.

I use reason and logic to form my opinions. Until you explain using reason and logic I won’t understand.

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So you’re indifferent to it either way, you know it probably won’t ever be added, and yet you’re still here because…?

To make the presence known of individuals that are against its inclusion so that the statement of “everybody wants it” cannot be absolute truth.

If through some strange hobby someone at Blizzard actually is reading this (very unlikely), I want them to know that it’s not some kind of non-controversial issue that literally every player thinks should be changed.

There are some very simple people who look out at the world and think every decision is a simple as whether to have ice cream for breakfast. Other people see a more complex world. A world where one needs to use thinking and reasoning to understand.

Already done.

…and each time you failed to understand so I’m inclined to not agree with this statement anyway.

Nobody is saying everybody wants dual spec.

Plenty have started off threads like these with claims of this exact thing. Look up posts from “Megarune” for example.

Blizzard, we want you to add in Dual Spec and remove the 58 boost

Notice the “we” there, from this other poster.

Also, not just to that, but I want it clear to any reader that there are drawbacks to changing TBCC so drastically in such a way, since such posters also continue to contend that there’s pretty much zero impact on its inclusion in to an environment where it was literally designed purposefully to not exist, and we have literal blue-post proof of this.

An argument that no pro-dual spec poster has ever been able to counter either has been why we shouldn’t just add specs the way they are now in retail, and why we shouldn’t add LFR or LFD?

What’s the point of “settling” for the WOTLK version? Like why would you want the half-baked version of what we eventually got?

What are the drawbacks?

I can see why Blizzard has ignored this thread for so long.

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We is not a synonym for every one.

It ambiguously refers to more than just them, and the idea is to make it known that if it’s referring to me, they’re wrong :slight_smile:

Well there is clearly more than one person who wants dual spec :slight_smile: