Dual Spec.. please?

And here you are busily calling me out for “inconsistency” or “using big words and pretending to be smart” and yet you still haven’t answered my simple question:

If Blizzard wanted to implement Dual spec in TBC, as you claim, why didn’t they?

You’ve been remarkably consistent, at dodging the question and playing the man.

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Delimicus already told you the answer to this question. You just don’t read. As soon as someone disagrees with you or calls you out on your inconsistencies, you immediately start this:

Nobody wants to interact with you if you react this way to folks disagreeing with you or showing you how you’ve not been consistent with other posts you’ve made regarding similar subjects.

There’s nothing in it for me to continue having that kind of discussion.

You’ve already written me off as “insulting” or whatever and yet you continue interacting with me as if somehow we’re supposed to continue a conversation regardless of your current disposition.

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Thanks for supporting our dump by showing the idea on dual spec. It helps the devs to know topics are being at the 1st page without reading every single messages.

Same goes the other way when you refuse to answer an uncomfortable question and then proceed to call people pretentious.

I asked you the question, not Delimicus.

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No, it obviously doesn’t because you keep responding to me with the same thing over and over again.

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Let them respond. At least it’s bumping and refreshing the threads to be at first page.

Rohkthok thinks this is very important to bring more players into TBC. Dual spec is what Rohkthok wants.

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Yes, let people who disagree reply and stop bullying them into silence so that it can bump your demands to the devs! /S

Essentially anything to get what you want. Bully opponents off the thread or “let them” reply. Whatever strategy gets you more icecream. #gimmegimmegimme

This isn’t so much a discussion forum as it is a petition forum, where players get to petition the Devs into giving them whatever they want.

No wonder wow forums have the reputation for being one of the most toxic gaming forums around.

Well you definitely are helping this thread to be bumped. So I can’t say you aren’t contributing

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I hope it gets read as well as bumped so the Devs can read some of the concerns players have with mindlessly adding in a dual spec feature.

For bonus points they can read the more sensible, less invasive, and less risky suggestion of lower respec costs. #somechanges.

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I want to do dungeons, raid and farm as elemental. I would also like to play a slightly more optimized version of elemental intended for casual PvP when I feel like sitting in a 45 minute queue.

Why does your strawman argument echo every other anti-dual spec strawman? Care to provide any original thoughts of your own?

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Exactly! See, now here’s someone who understands how these threads work!

Patch 2.4.3 right off the bat is a pretty drastic change and has impacted the way the game is played. We are drastically more powerful than we ever would have been if we had started the game in its earliest patch.

Not sure having the ability to alternate between two specs is a “large change.” It’s not like anyone is asking that any of the spec themselves receive any changes. It’s just the ability to alternate between two out of three of them.

They weren’t ignored. The scope of changes the devs wanted to implement was pretty high and so some changes were prioritized while others were put on the back-burner. Dual Spec was actually something that the devs–according to Greg Street–had intended for TBC, but were not able to implement until Wrath.

Saying this doesn’t really support anything you’ve said so far. You’re just making it personal, which would otherwise go to show your position doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

Seal of the Martyr is in TBC Classic. Period.

Nobody needs anything. This is a computer game that people play because they want to. It would stand to reason, therefore, that people ask for particular changes because they want those changes.

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Plz blizzard. This would be HUGE

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NGL. I would enjoy dual spec. Or just making respeccing free. The cost is pretty artificial and arbitrary. It’s not like it would break the game if either of these options were implemented. In the later instance, it just means some time lost wandering back to a major city to talk to a trainer and redo your talent spread.

Reducing spec costs wouldn’t break the game and is easily adjusted on the fly or tuned.

Dual spec could actually do a lot of harm to the game - depending on how it was implemented.

Edit: Not all dual spec implementations are equal. Most of the people advocating it don’t seem to care about the implementation though, they just want it irrespective of the impact it has on the game.

Edit: and of course proponents are going to completely ignore my caveat “depending on the implementation” as they don’t actually care about the implementation, so long as they get their treat.

Yeah, like convincing raid loggers to login and help their friends!
Or convincing people to help the struggling arena scene by participating!

Lots of “harm.”

:roll_eyes:

A poorly implemented Dual spec won’t hurt anyone - it’ll just make the game boring and unbalanced resulting in us moving onto something else.

That’s not a disaster, but I like TBC (as do many others) so if they make enough rubbish changes to the game to make it not fun that will be a shame.

Of course you won’t care either, you’ll move on too, after you trash the game.

If you’re going to petition and make noise for a dual spec feature at least have the good sense to suggest a viable implementation of it. Of course you don’t actually give a stuff about how fun the game is, just how convenient it is for you to gain advantage.

Who cares about the implementation right? /sarcasm.

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