Na… they still need to enter the depression stage first…
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You don’t have the data, neither do I.
My guild is a community. My incentive is I enjoy playing with my friends in my community and that’s usually all I need to keep playing well passed the point when I need anything.
So everything about this current version of TBC is 100% positive for you? That’s quite the statement from someone who seems to really want an Authentic TBC experience yet is playing a game that has been changes multiple times away from it. I really hope you’re not using Seal of the Martyr.
In retail I could see this being true. PVP in retail is hot garbage, just another change to get your RNG epic for the week.
Outside of that I’d want to see some actual numbers since so many Pre-BIS and even t4/t5/t6 Best in Slot items come from Arena and BGs. I’ve seen people who never did a single BG in Vanilla pushing 1850 for weapons because they’re that good.
Raid leaders should set clear expectations so that by coming to raid you know that this may be required for you. There are more TBC raiders now than ever existed in retail TBC so finding a casual or semi-casual guild that fits your playstyle is on you. Under no circumstance should a player join a guild or raid with those expectations and then be surprised when they are asked to fulfill them.
To me this is also a positive thing though as it gives raid leaders more flexibility.
Make sure you guys keep bumping this thread with your throwaway alts!
Thanks! 
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We’re playing a game with:
- Original 400ms batching cut down to 10ms.
- Modern raid frames .
- Updated graphics settings (including the pseudo-procedural HD water used in Modern WoW) and HD shadows.
- Modern addon API.
- Item names and NPCs changed.
- Original release content being gated.
- Faction specific Paladins seals made available to both factions.
- Tinnitus debuff on drums.
- Arena rating starting at 0.
- Same faction battlegrounds were live-tested.
- Modern voice chat in-game.
- Playing S1 with patch 2.4.3 as the baseline. Arena rating on S1 and S2 gear.
- Pre-nerf raid encounters with patch 2.4.3 classes.
- Servers with a greater concurrent character capacity and layering.
- I think the Wargames feature is still in.
- Enlistment crates were live-tested.
- Chronoboon that can still be used from level 1-63 to save world buffs for leveling.
- I think there were a couple AH changes recently?
- Battleground pre-made changes.
- Level 58 boost.
- Completely new Deluxe Edition Warp Stalker mount.
Added the boost and mount to my list, and I’m still probably forgetting stuff. If you want an “authentic” recreation of TBC, you should go back to private servers or request Blizzard open a “No-changes” server.
Same thought of people asking for fresh realms on release. Thanking others for bumps even though people were fundamentally disagreeing and proving that it was a foolish request. Such as… dual spec in TBC.
It is good that we keep bumping the topic and relevant people (decision make) come here to see that the arguments in defense for Dual Spec is nothing but nonsense delusional talk.
This???
You could’ve listed that Blizzard added Paid Realm Transfers and BGs too early in the game, letting cowards flee from their realms because they were getting ganked everywhere.
Shame that didn’t receive as much of a popular bump as other aspects of the game, isn’t it? Oh well, you gain some and you lose some. Let’s see about Dual Spec, then shall we?
Some want to change multiple times during a raid. The weekly statement would be lowballing it for them.
If you want to change that multiple times during a raid you don’t know how to play your character
you should probably find a private server that has dual spec, its almost all of them. have fun.
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But I just barely got my CRT!
Thereza, please teach me how to play my character.
I need your wisdom and guidance.
go to wowhead dot com read some guides and please don’t be bad, this game has been released 15 years go, you should know by now.
edit: That should help you getting some decent parses. My god, it appears that you are not even keybinding your abilities and clicking instead. Never saw a feral druid with so low parses.
Also, if you think that dual spec will help you finally kill magtheridon, you’re wrong.
Okay, I will try to be as good as you someday. I promise.
same. if these people would actually put some effort into learning the game, they’d be making so much passive gold they wouldn’t give two craps about respec fees.
I have 3,400 gold, epic flying and I’ve leveled my Aldor rep and both my Enchanting and Engineering. I’ve also got about 1,000 gold in consumes and mats on my bank alt; I don’t need gold. I’ve respecced four times in the last 2 years.
I don’t want Dual Spec for personal financial reasons. I want Dual Spec because I want the game to be in a healthy state for the entirety of TBC. I want Dual Spec because I can actually think outside of my own personal wants and needs.
yes yes, of course. you are a selfless saint of game design 
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You can see that I’ve been raiding in the same spec for 2 years. You can see that my spec is unchanging through the current tier. You can see that I haven’t played a single Arena match in TBC.
I don’t respec. Why would I want Dual Spec for my own personal needs?
you can arena as holy i promise
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