especially at the rate TBC is hemoraging players. Speed up wrath for the next earnings call!
What proof do I need? All I’m asking for is … Um … Nothing.
You’re presenting the case. It’s your proposition, you’re the one who has to meet the burden of proof.
Prove that it won’t harm the game.
Prove it will benefit the game in the way you claim.
Give me more than your feeling to go on that this change is both needed and will be effective.
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LOL you really couldn’t leave it alone and you still didn’t answer a single question.
You think when Blizzard looks to these threads and leaves them open for weeks hoping to get some feedback they’re looking for specifics like me or do they think they’re looking to have to hire a mental health professional to unwind whatever it is you’re saying?
You claim it would have a negative impact etc… So when you are asking for an evidence for our claim, you can’t just stand there and say “I don’t need to proof anything.”.
But what we have is a lot better: several polls showing that the majority of the player base want dual spec. So if you are still against it because of your claims, you need to show that your reasons would outweight the overwhelming majority of player votes.
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I don’t think you understand what is in this game because…
These are currently available in tbc without dual spec. Called respecing at your class trainer.
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NO, I am simply suggesting it is a non negligible change and that it could have a negative impact. I’m not suggesting it definitely will.
All changes have risks, the bigger the changes the bigger the risks. I’m simply asking you to consider them and then consider an approach that minimises risk while achieving your goal. It is not on me to prove beyond all doubt that a negative consequence will happen, it’s on you to prove that the risk is minimal and the benefits worth the risks.
Imagine if engineers were like you and the other pro dual speccers here.
Engineer 1: “This pylon under the bridge is annoying and inconvenient for pedestrians. Other bridges don’t have it so I reckon we should remove it”.
Engineer 2: “But it may be necessary and the bridge might become unstable without it”
Engineer 1: “Shoosh you, unless you can prove beyond all doubt that removing the pylon will definitely cause the bridge to fall we’re removing it. A poll I put out among the pedestrians proves we need to do it!”
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I’ve considered the risks. I’ve done some research and found out 90% of doctors recommend Dual Spec.
Like Gnomish Engineers? Pretty sure most of their gadgets are pretty wonky as is, but that’s what makes them fun!
People did but still decided that dual spec would be a welcome help for them - so doing more good than bad.
You have another opinion, that’s fine, but as long as there aren’t any evidance or at least logical reasons that could outweight the overwhelming majority of player votes (and we haven’t seen any so far), there is no reason to not implement it.
About the risk: They already implemented it in the past, so we know what impact it has. No negative impact obviously, otherwise wrath wouldn’t have been the most successful expansion.
So this whole conversation against dual spec is pointless. I understand that some people are against it for what ever reason, but most want it. That is reason enough to implement it.
When they are already in the game, what is your reason to not implement dual spec? There is non…!
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Because I wont have to play Wrath (I wont have to play wrath at all!) with the people that are pushing to change TBC.
You all will just abandon TBC as soon as wrath comes out anyway, so why not just wait and let the people who wanted TBC have TBC.
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I know I will. Not for any reasons related to dual-spec, however.
I just don’t like most of the of the content. Ulduar is really the only bright spot. Everything else about Wrath is a mess.
People are going to figure that out pretty quick as soon as ToC hits. Then all your fond memories of Howling Fjord music are going to fade…
You don’t have to play TBC either. No one is forcing you. You can unsub at any time
You don’t have to play tbcc without dual spec either, you can just quit any time because dual spec isn’t in tbcc.
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Is English your first lanuage? I only ask because you don’t seem to understand anything I posted so if you’re confused let me clarify:
- Increases player choice.
See right off the bat you look like a drooling mongoloid because the word “Increases” has a very specific meaning so when you same something absolutely sub 70 IQ like:
It makes me question whether you had any formal education at all or just whatever grandpappy learned you out behind the barn.
Since we’ve already established your illiteracy I’m not sure there is much point into reviewing anything else but I will leave this here for you:
Take a few moments and have your assigned helper go through that definition of Increase for you then get back to me.
I’d love to see you start countering a person without first prefacing it with a personal insult. It does nothing to strengthen your position and just makes you look like a bit of a cad. It’s not just you - it seems to be the template for online “discussion” on the wow forums, but it frankly sucks.
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I didn’t realize that not knowing English as your first language was a personal insult.
You claiming it increases player choice doesn’t make it so. I pointed out that choice is already in the game which you don’t dispute.
You are just a bad troll at this point.
Person attacks on me doesn’t help you in any way. It shows how weak of an argument you are making. It also shows how weak you know it to be too.
You have all options for specing in game available currently. Dual spec doesn’t INCREASE those options. It is you who doesn’t understand English because you are not arguing more choices here.
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Ok, I’ll tell you what. We can meet in the middle.
I’m OK with them adding spec on two conditions:
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You have to be near your class trainer.
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You must pay a scaling amount of gold capping at 50g for the most expensive to make the swap.
Cool?
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Already meeting halfmway by suggesting lowering respec costs. That’s a compromise. I’d prefer no change at all.
You’re acting like your opponents are recalcitrant #nochangers, but we are in fact advocating a viable compromise.
I don’t actually think the need for any respeccing change has been adequately substantiated.
If you read my post carefully enough you’ll see that what I’m suggesting actually doesn’t change anything lol, it’s a joke.
The game is retail.
vanilla was retail once. TBC was retail once. WoTLK was retail once.
Dual Spec was added during patch 3.1.0 (Ulduar). dual spec isn’t a requirement or need on TBC. I could explain the reasons, but explaining the reasons defeats the purpose of why people are discussing this.
In WoTLK we had several fights where you actually had to go back and re-spec for the fight, wasn’t for Dual-spec.
I played throughout OG TBC and again, here, there is not a single fight you really need to swap specs to play.
And I mean NEED is the literal meaning of the word.
People are asking for a solution (dual-spec) but they don’t have a problem that dual-spec is the answer for, other than “muahhh I want it, I pay”.
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