The WC3 manual, the in game war of the spider book and chronicles all say that the Dreadlords built ICC. That is two independent, canonical sources that supports Chronicles vol 3.
Personally I view it to mean the one we see in WC3: TFT. Which gets destroyed as Arthas puts on the helm. The saronite one was done once Arthas took control over the scourge from Ner’zhul. I’m basing this on the WC3: TFT finale cinematic. Which shows the citadel being destroyed in the background as Arthas is climbing up the steps. Then after he puts on the helm and sits down, the Frozen Throne is exposed to the elements. Then in Wrath we see ICC made of saronite. Clearly something happened in between those two events.
I’ve sworn I said this before but it is okay to take Chronicles with a grain of salt. However when we have canonical sources that corroborates what Chronicles says, it is silly to say, “well chronicles is from the Titans pov, therefore this part is totally false”. That being said, if Chronicles is the only reference to a certain event (for example the origins of the Pantheon), we have to take it at face value until something else either confirms or denies it. Simply saying, “oh it is non-canon because blah blah blah” without any evidence to support it is not good enough.
The issue I have is when people intentionally dismiss any established canonical lore that goes against their personal narrative. Or trying to twist new information to mean something that it is probably not intended to mean. Going so far to claim that “X” was this grand lie made up by certain characters even though characters on another team make reference to X.
tbf Chronicles leaves it vague as to what Odyn saw when he traded his eye to gain insight into the Shadowlands. Afterwards he used that knowledge to create the Val’kyr. All Shadowlands did was simply say, “Odyn saw the Kyrians”. Which 1. makes sense and 2. is supported with Shadowlands as the Kyrian see the Val’kyr as their cousins. As for Frostmourne, I got nothing
It is Odyn’s Lore in Skyhold that mentions Odyn seeing things in the Shadowlands with his Eye not the Chronicle which simply mentions him making the Valkyr without saying what his inspiration was.
True. Chronicles only mentions that he learned how to make the Val’kyr by studying the Shadowlands. And tbf, Legion and Chronicles vol 1 (at least early legion) were written around the same time. So I imagine Blizzard wrote that part of Chronicles as a summary, not to spoil why Odyn shows up with an eye patch. While Warriors will be able to learn more about it in their order hall.
So Calia has a daughter, as we already know. But during the third war, she was seperated from her family, husband and daughter, and has no idea what happened to them! At last mention, she did not know if they were alive or dead, but hoped if they died, it was quick and they did not get Scourgified.
You are welcome for this lesson into a subject you did not know before Dread!
Right, it’s not like people in the real world who last saw their families in overrun warzones and have not found them after decades of searching for them have presumed them dead.
That would be silly.
I am teaching you about war survivors, lore and English today!!
Real life people can’t access the Afterlife.
Calia can and does.
If she was concerned about her youngster being dead, she would be looking for her.
She isn’t and she states the’s the only one left.
Retconned.
I think you also need some writing comprehension, because you literally stated if Calia believed her daughter to be dead, she’d look. And she didn’t look. So the daughter isn’t dead.
