Pretty sure fast travel is less immersive than dragon riding, but what do I know, I only have 2752 hours of skyrim played.
…I don’t know about you, but that engagement seems pretty minimal…
I’l give you time trials, since anything timed or challenging does require you to pay more attention then what you’re already doing. Other then that, the “engagement” you needed is minimal.
Well just saying “Engaging” isn’t exactly clear without defining it, so it’s not exactly a simple definition as you think it is, if you’re not going by it’s definition.
Are we just talking about the occasional animations they dragons just do, or is there an actual flip button? And if so, mind telling me what it is then? Because i yet to unlock it.
It is an objective benefit, since speed does help you go to places faster.
Here’s my stipulation that is related to this, if people are complaining about flying being fast, then that problem is obviously with the speed, yes? So if the speed is the problem… why then the same peeps are okay with dragonriding’s speed then? 
Heck, later on, you said you would be equally disappointed if it was normal flying with faster speed. Which to me, tells me, you wouldn’t exactly accept normal flying with faster speed as simply that either.
Ehh, me personally, i wouldn’t. I mean let’s keep in mind, fun is subjective after all. (and shouldn’t be used as a buzzword imo, but i digress)
While Dragonflying doesn’t hinder my controls too much and just allows me enough to be precise, it’s really nothing special to me personally. It just gets me to places faster. Flying has always been like that. If Ground mounts at all really.
If Normal flying just has this speed the DF goes at, then honestly, i wouldn’t see myself using Dragonflying much. Maybe just for screwing around and seeing how hard i go splat on some surface or if a challenge genuinely requires it, sure. But other then that, it’s utility is the same or almost as normal flying at the moment. And for personally, it was much easier to get back to normal flying when i’m back in the old world. DR is not a terrible experience for me, it’s simply not an amazing experience for me.
However, the customization options on the otherhand, whoo boy, if there’s anything i want mounts to copy from Dragonflying this point forward, it’s the dope customizations. Not the customizations themselves, but the sheer idea of it, and how you go about earning them.
Now that’s truly awesome, and fun. And i actually do mean fun. 
You know that P!mp my mount april fools day prank Blizzard did? This is basically that, but real. 
Yeah I’m not reading all that. I like Dragonriding as is and want to see it built and iterated on. Literally what is the point of this? If you don’t find it engaging or interesting cool I guess. I like it, and want more from it, not for it to go away.
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Then i guess you don’t have an argument then.
Give the comment a read if you want to know the point, i’m not going to spoon feed it to you here if you’re choosing to refuse to understand that comment. 
Where did i say or implied that i want it to go away? Both options can exist. 
I don’t need you to spoon feed me dude. I just don’t care.
I got your point. You don’t find the system all that special. Cool. Nice. I’ve always iterated for both so if folks don’t like it I don’t care.
You decided to dissect my post about why I enjoyed Dragonriding to… Tell me you don’t really think it’s that great? Cool. I don’t see the point in that.
No, i don’t find the concept all that special. I’ve been skeptical of that idea ever since it’s been announced and never saw the hype for it. Still didn’t see the hype, nor how it genuinely adds to the game.
I’m still waiting on a reasonable explanation (From anybody honestly) on how it genuinely adds to the game, like make it better as a whole, and not have it be de-attached feeling. Or make one part of the game feel kind of off in comparison.
Apparently responding to somebody and asking a few things because i don’t understand myself is dissenting now.
I will take a moment out of my time to apologize that i don’t have mind reading powers to know what exactly what people mean. Yes, i know, i’m Bari, the Handsome Space Batman looking Radioactive Fabio Elf, but i don’t have mind reading powers. /s
Why you keep simplifying my posts exactly?.. If you have read the comment, you would know this opinion i have where i think is okay, is backed up with reasonable issues i had with Dragonflying, not just the systems themselves, but the community reactions and hypocrisy surrounding all the arguments made against flying.
Why do you think it’s bad for me to want consistency in people’s opinions?..
Well agree to disagree on what you’ve said, as you’ve once said to me. Opinions of any sort can be discussed. Positive, Negative, Neutral, etc. Or even asked on why do you like it, or what is it about it that you like, and etc. That’s not saying you can’t have them.
It’s the reason why i often explain myself when i like or dislike something, because it disallows vagueness. (which is common whenever somebody is being positive about something)
If you wish to contest me on where i stand on DR (since it seems to me, you’re under the impression that i hate it or my opinion wasn’t genuine), my thread about dragonflying, has me giving some criticism as well some praise to this system where i’ve ultimately said it was just fine. Infact, i’ve given more positives then negatives. 
Nah the entire time, I got the impression you were neutral on it. It’s fine, it’s fast, you don’t think it’s anything special.
Not that great =/= hate. It means “fine.” (For me.)
I and others have said why we like it. We find it fast, and engaging. For me that’s enough for it to add to the game- it makes traveling more fun and that’s a bonus.
Oh look, a Bravado thread where he has one of the worst takes in gaming history.
Why am I not surprised.
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I like dragon riding fine – but I will say the one thing I really really hate about it is te hindrance use of the maps (at least for me).
Sometimes when I’m flying/traveling I like to open the map to ensure I’m going the correct way and about how far it is (to another zone or 3). I can lose focus to the map and then possibly plummeting before I know it. Other than that, I like it.
…Well fair enough.
looks at Quantium TV’s take on Elden Ring and back at you.
I assume you are aware that Skyrim is widely regarded as one of the greatest RPGs of all time, and thus by comparing WoW to it that you are implicitly paying WoW a big compliment? We can thereby deduce that you actually mean to say is that dragon riding is really awesome. 
Dragon Riding 2/10
Everyone has the option not to use it except in the few circumstances that require it. Nobody seems to do that though, I wonder why.
I WISH I had the amount of free time some of you seem to have. I hope y’all are greatful 
It’s a minor inconveniences for me. Could I do without it? Absolutely
Would I enjoy it more if it weren’t mandatory? Absolutely
New WoW players? I have a Druid that’s probably older than you are.
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How is having our mounts finally acting realistically to air and momentum killing immersion as opposed to our old ones flapping forever and hovering in place endlessly like robots?
Was your immersion not killed by the mounts that magically never needed to land to conserve energy, like most older bird models?
For those who don’t like Dragonriding, I can understand some complaints. But Muh Immersion is one of the worst imo.
yep.
why the skyrim analogy is bad.
Based on level of difficulty barring in game hyper spawn areas or mod fun…you are looking at 30 to 45 days till stuff comes back.
you can walk that road from helgen to riften 30 times if so desired.
if you killed it all on walk 1…there is nothing there on walk 2 to 30 if done in 30 to 45 days.
Kind of like wow at level cap. mobs are there…but pointless. crap/no loot, no rep and by 10.2 slapped down easy. classic if so desired will at least give me rep for every pirate I kill in tanaris.
If I really want to make 21000K rep at 5 per pirate I do have that option. I’d not take but its there lol.
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No, it makes the world seem the exact size it is. They did a good job of making zones bigger, and not only that the multiple levels of depth, the waterfalls, the canyons, the high peaks - none of that would be majestic as it is on this flying dragon mount.
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whats with the i dont like this so everyone else should suffer people when it comes to flying and dragon riding. if it breaks the immersion and makes the world feel tiny then get off the dragon and walk. were in a dragon based expansion how can walking be more immersive than riding on a dragon. the zones were amazingly made to fit with a zone where dragons fly. nothing about them feel small if anything some spots feel like the increase in Hight is to much and i have to trade speed for altitude. this game probably isnt for you
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