Unless all Draenei are omniscient and omnipotent. Then yea it makes sense. Though, please Blizz give me Undead Paladins. Please! if they can be priests they can be paladins.
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One course argue there’s a stark different between Priests and Paladins and that Undead Priests veer more into the Shadow category with the rare few wielding what are essentially spears of light. But no one cares so whatever.
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That’s true, but priests also wield the light, so in that sense, it’d be quite similar. The juxtaposition is less severe than a Drenaei warlock imo.
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And people should get to play those spears of light as Undead Paladins.
The average Orc isn’t an adventuring Warrior, or a Warlock or a Death Knight or whatever, they’re peons. The player by default is a freak of nature among their peers. The flavour of freak shouldn’t be restricted.
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I said I don’t care. I mean god I have a damn Draenei Warlock and I absolutely love her to bits despite being in the camp of restricted race/class options. So ultimately I’m just a hypocrite. Hell have an Undead Druid who is the truest personification of nature and better then Night elves.
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So, in the RP circles that I move in, you can if you use a Man’ari’s “demon” name. Like how Arzaal, the leader of the penitent Man’ari, went by Arzal’kal when he was with the Legion but went back to Arzaal when he left.
We do see Wilfred Fizzlebang summon Jaraxxus in the Trial of the Crusader and TRY to bind him, but it doesn’t go so well for him.
So, summoning? That could be a thing. Compelling compliance? Maaaaybe not so much.
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I’ve always thought Rot/Decay is a criminally underused part of WoW’s druidic fantasy. Give us undead mushroom druids dammit.
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So, apparently Wilfred probably could have binded Jaraxxus had he not forgotten an important ritual focus. Which tells me that even if he had summoned the intended demon. Probably would have failed binding it as well.
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No it doesn’t, the thing about Warlocks is that while Culturally Speaking Draenei and Lightforged can be them is insane, it’s also a Class that anyone and their mother is capable of becoming.
Paladins require extreme faith and martial training, Druidism and Shamanism require deep connections with Nature and the Elements respectively and isn’t something just ANYONE can become.
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There is nothing unique about any races biology that prevents them from becoming another class. Class restrictions aren’t biology, they’re cultural.
Every race is capable of this.
Every race is capable of this.
I’m not saying Goblin Druids SHOULD be common, my argument is that the playable character is a rare breed by default, an absolute freak of nature.
Something like 80% of Demon Hunters don’t survive traineeship. A PC DH not only survived that training but went further beyond and obtained a Demon Soul making them functionally immortal (kinda).
They’re the cream of the crop of a class where you only exist by already being the cream of the crop.
Players being extremely rare or even unique is perfectly fine. The average Orc is a peon, they’re not an adventurers. Adventurers do not have to abide by the cultural norms of their race.
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And I think that’s really dumb.
Because it makes the races you pick less meaningful, because it effectively disestablishes cultural mores, because you can just be whatever you want regardless of any lore, further devaluing the impoverished and loathsome beast that is Warcraft lore.
I also think when every PC can just be these massive outliers it effectively means they aren’t, because John Leaf is no longer exceptional and unusual when there’s five thousand other Human Druids just like him gadding about with trainers added to major cities et al.
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If you don’t believe that your PC of X race would be Y class, you do not have to play that.
I think it far more likely there’s 5000 other Human Druids than there’s 5000 Night Elf Demon Hunters, Eredar Warlocks or Human Death Knights floating around.
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Obviously, I mean I have eyes and a functioning brain.
I do have to see it, though, and it does necessarily devalue the various cultures of the setting.
And I think it still dumb for reasons aforementioned.
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Oh, this again.
Please provide an example of Fel being incompatible with The Light. You cannot, as there is not a mechanical function in-lore that prevents any playable race from being any class.
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Feels closed minded.
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Hard disagree. Bioessentialism flattens a race.
Goblins are at their least interesting when they’re universally greedy schemers who have zero care in the world for who their actions hurt or any long term suffering caused by them chasing short term gain.
They’re far more interesting when they’re mostly the above, but enough exceptions exist to show that’s a culture thing, not an inherent part of their biology.
PC’s are the perfect vessels for those exceptions because like I’ve outlined many times over in this thread, we’re not an average member of our race.
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Humans have the Harvest Witches and Kul Tirans have their connection through the Drust, so the connection is there, it’s just Blizzard refuses to do it.
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No you see it’s different because Gilneans are british.
And what is this supposed to mean?
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I’m sorry to be the one to tell you this.