Dracthyr - Battle Visage

Yet we still hate you funny that ain’t it. Mechagnomes could of been cool robots. I have zero idea why blizzard thought what they made was acceptable much less a good idea.

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Human brewmaster monks: yeah! That’s ridiculous!

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What do you mean these people?

I think you’re mostly right. For me personally, it’s the fact that you can only mog a belt and shoulders. That is pure laziness on Blizzard’s part. They should have full mogs. If they did I don’t think as many people would be clamoring for a visage battle form.

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The issue is they made Humans and Blood Elves with like 2x the customization.

Throw all those options sans the Horns and Scales onto Humans and Blood Elves and like 80% of people playing Dracthyr would be cool with not playing Dracthyr.

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You can literally not use the feature and not have your character’s fantasy ruined as you put.

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I wouldn’t use a visage form at all if the drachthyr model didn’t look like absolute garbage. So many ways to create a humanoid dragon form, and they went with THAT?

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The boring people. The normies. The bland. The kind of people who think wearing pointed ears and nothing else is peak fantasy. Those people.

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I hate this.

Does it? There used to be a spell that was called Dragon Breath that summoned a magic dragon head to breathe fire, why would the same not work in this case? Same with “magic-y”, ethereal wings/tails.

Options exist, it’s just a matter of if they’re more work than Blizzard is willing to put in.

I don’t really see why even that’s necessary. Every single race in the game has access to a firebreathing attack/animation through brewmaster. It won’t be impausible to see a visage do it.

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It works for me, but this was based on the assumption that the person I was replying to knew that and didn’t think it was “dragon-y” enough. Which is also a fair opinion to hold.

I don’t inherently have a problem with Battle Visage, so long as they maintain certain abilities always needing you to turn into a Dracthyr. Let us pop back into Visage after, but do not make it so you can 100% play as Visage. It’s like saying you don’t want to have to see the Meta form on DH. It’s part of the class fantasy.

My biggest concern is that this will be all we get. We’ve been patiently (maybe impatiently) awaiting proper transmog options for Dracthyr, and this feels like a clear message that we won’t be getting it anytime soon. “Hey, we don’t want to work on Dracthyr, so we’ll make it even easier to never have to see it!” Hopefully I’m wrong, but this is Blizzard, after all.

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I would rather the character does it, its too awkward if a summoned flying head does it. Its the entire point of being an evoker. Its like saying “I want to tank as a druid but I dont wanna be a bear, let me stay in human form”…makes no sense, human form has no claw swipe and other stuff.

True, Battle Visage essentially causes the player to quickly shift in and out of Dracthyr form to cast those Evoker moves.

No Worgen complained about that. We complain about the lack of a tail and the lack of unique druid kitty form which could be pack form.

Yeah, no one complained about that. Not only that, Calm the wolf is literally just an autocast for two forms racial. Worgen have always had two form racial so this was literally a non factor.

This was absolutely a thing, and Worgen did complain about it, however I admit I had mixed up the timeline in my head. I thought Blizzard added Calm the Wolf much earlier than they really did.

Worgen were added in 2010. Calm the Wolf was added in 2023. Dracthyr were added in 2022. Basically, a lot of Worgen players wanted to match what Worgen NPCs like Genn Greymane could do, which was spend most of the time as a Human but then beast-out when combat started, and revert back to a human after. After no response from Blizzard for 10 years, Dracthyr were released with the exact ability Worgen wanted (being able to automatically revert to their chosen form after the end of combat). Worgen players were upset that the new race got the functionality they were asking for for over a decade, yet they still did not have it.

Finally Blizzard caved and in 2023 Worgen received the ability.

(2020) A Worgen customization option in Shadowlands should be to automatically return to Human form out of combat. (Reddit)

(2021) Worgen auto-shift back to Human option (wow forums)

(2022) “Two Forms” should be a TOGGLE! (Wow forums)

(2023) My Worgen DK NEEDS this ability to go back to human form! (Reddit)

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Except you could always do that. You always had Two Forms ability. You just had to click it. The only thing Calm the Wolf does is click it for you. No one complained that they couldnt be like Genn. People asked for an autocast. Literally no one in those threads you linked aside from I think 1 guy is doing it as a complaint. Adding a suggestion is not the same as complaining.

Blizz is going to have to at least convert Azure Strike, Disintegrate, and Pyre into visage-native spells or this change is going to look pretty bizarre. Devastation would still be spending half its time in dracthyr form with Disintegrate especially if it isn’t excluded.