You’re making two major assumptions.
1 - I’m leaving a ton of keys.
Like I said. I don’t expect people to be perfect and not make mistakes. I’m talking about hard carrying someone.
2 - you’re assuming that someone being hard carried like that will guarantee complete the key.
Timing also gives bonus crests.
That’s the problem there isn’t any accountability.
I don’t apply to fifteens because I don’t push mplus like that. I mostly do them for crests and vault.
I think the 15 from 11s count above the cap don’t they? Could be wrong I remember reading a change but im over 5000km from home atm.
Should give the nemesis fights a try they sharpen your skills.
He’s talking about opening pulls and people having less than 2m dps at 700 ilvl. You aren’t going to be without CDs in that situation.
I just did a 7 priory and my 697 rogue peaked at about 14m dps and ended the first pull at ~10m. I didn’t even do as well as I should have.
2m on the first pull in a +10 is definitely not acceptable.
Between the three DPS in this run we ended with ~14m total DPS and only timed the key by about 8 minutes. So yeah what he’s saying would be pretty unacceptable in a +10.
It’s very evident within the first two pulls of every single dungeon if you have a hard carry in the group
You’re not going to get accountability from someone who doesn’t even have the information to be able to recognize that they’re doing bad damage. They aren’t even aware that they suck, if they were, they probably wouldn’t be doing bad damage.
You’re acting like people suck at WoW on purpose.
Anyone doing timed content should be self aware enough to know if they are pulling their own weight
I don’t know… in principle I agree with you but if you are not aware and timed the 9 why wouldn’t you go to the 10?
Ohhhh my bad OP. Yeah there’s no excuse then.
Yup, this is exactly what people do.
It’s like when people were getting good gear from delves at the start of TWW and skipping low keys to learn the dungeons because they had good enough gear to qualify for slightly higher keys. And people complained that there were too many people who didn’t know the dungeons.
I never once claimed that.
However people get delusions of grandeur and think they are better than what they are.
Carrying them through key just makes it worse.
And now people have to be toxic because of this terrible system they designed.
Ive kind of found the reverse but I filter my keys to an excruciating level. People seem quicker to disband then hold hostage
I mean it’s one thing if they had a death on that opening pull but that can also be a bad sign lol.
I watched a buddy do a twelve streets week one.
Literally had the DH and warrior doing like 6-7 mil overalll.
The priest was doing 2.6 mil.
Didn’t know mechanics or how to do damage.
I legit think he was using obr.
People get carried through the 9 and then list their 10 just to possibly get carried through the 10.
This! In the long run, you aren’t doing that person a favor by being quiet and carrying them. Some people need to be told their DPS sucks. They can get offended and take that personally, or they can accept the feedback and improve.
Goes for anything in life, really.
assassination or sub, i’m assuming. outlaw can struggle on opening pulls because they don’t have CDs to pop, so if you have bad luck with opening rolls you can end up pretty low. but it definitely evens out after a couple pulls.
From their perspective, based on how OP described it, it sounds like OP voted to abandon after no one had died, people said no, and OP just left.
Unless OP said something in chat about how their damage sucked, to them it just looks like OP was the jerk for no reason.
I don’t even see how that’s “delusions of grandeur”, they’re honestly more likely just confused about the whole situation, I would be if that was me lol.
Yeah he be a Sin rogue. So much fun this season. Got me my Kyveza kill and is probably the easiest spec to get her on imo.
I gave up on Outlaw toward the end of S2 
Just wasn’t working for me the way I felt it should.
But you can’t do that either because you’re being “toxic” and “elitist”
Had a resto shaman start pinging and call me a dumb hunter in an eco 9 when we wiped on first boss because he didn’t know what binding shot was.
All while the dev evoker was doing tank damage.
He here really are people like that.
that goes for all roles. the tank pulled more can he could handle, we were dying like flies, ignored “let it reset”. the rest is obvious. Then healer started to blame the dps not kicking…
The other dh tank, he used ZERO felspikes, kept dying and dying and blaming my shammy not lusting, he said “he needs lust to survive” 20 something deaths and yet managed to time it cuz everyone was 6-7mil.
Then this hunter with 2 mil dps, dying to every boss. Healer was 3.3k and getting snapped by one shot abilities.
% wise it is not that much ~5-10 uber failures, so I guess I am ok with it.