"Doesn't feel like Warcraft" - what does this mean?

I never understand the phrase “It doesn’t feel like warcraft” - but I had one question if you don’t feel like laying out your menifesto - Would “keeping it warcraft” allow for new races to be added?

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Absolutely

There are multiple races that are already deeply connected to one faction or another so then finally being made playable would be very Warcraft feeling

Such as ogres

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Yeah but I mean “new” races. Not new playable races.

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Oohhh

Then yea probably assuming they fit the vibe

Like a race of talking pumpkins with toasters for hands would be out of place

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Warcraft 3 added new races. Tauren, Centaur, Naga, Murlocs.

Nightborne felt Warcraftian. Mag’har. Kul’tiran.

I know you’re trying to somehow bait people into somehow accepting Dracthyr but it just doesn’t work.

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I really don’t like Dracthyr. I’m asking because I feel like the “doesn’t feel like Warcraft” crowd doesn’t want any new races.

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Dracthyr feel plenty Warcraft to me.

People just like to hate on them because it’s not what they expected for a Dragonkin race.

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Ok.

I don’t think Dracthyr feel like Warcraft but I’m also fine with a lot of the allied races.

Here’s the thing - we’ve had races like Vulpera exist before, its just they’ve never been PCs. Races like the Sproggar or Wolvar have always been small localized groups that didn’t trickle out into the wider World of Warcraft. That’s where the issue is I imagine.

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Every single time I’ve seen someone say that something has made this game “not feel like Warcraft”, it is literally always something that was in the Warcraft series, or was already in WoW and they just didn’t notice it.

It’s almost always a case of people not having as much knowledge as they think they do about the Warcraft series, but still trying to make an argument against something from a point of authority they don’t actually have.

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Back when a lot of people started playing they were in high school or college and they played with their friends. It was a group activity. Now they have graduated, have jobs, families, responsibilities and it just doesn’t feel the same. Clearly this is all the devs fault, they must hate us.

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Faction pride, faction tension. The factions taking a lead role, having at least semi-unique leveling paths, hubs and narratives. That’s what feels like Warcraft to me.

This does not mean the factions must be at full tilt open war. They should be rivals. The uneasy peace/cold war setting of vanilla through Wrath.

The factions have been sidelined since BFA and that’s what feels off.

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Mean the theme to massively change to. I think a lot of people forget what warcraft 1-3 and classic to wrath/cataish was.

What was isn’t what is.

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Followed the franchise since Warcraft 2, read many of the books, etc.

Sorry but no, Vulpera were not in previous source material.

There has been thematic, aesthetic, and tonal drift.

I’ve said this before - Warcraft used to be dark with moments of light, now its light with moments of dark. And those are much different things.

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Agreed

Which could also allow for us, as players, to choose faction loyalist or to be more aligned with groups like the argents, cenarions, earthen ring, etc.

Again, agreed, but here I have to throw in the monkey wrench of anytime the factions have been relevant, it either leads to another faction hot war (over the course of 2-3 expansions), with an ending that makes no one happy, or one faction (often the Horde) has a leader that goes off the deep end and starts one up again.

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Just because they weren’t in the series previously, doesn’t mean they don’t “feel like Warcraft” and came from the same people who made the series what it was and still is.

You are literally posting this on a Tauren character. Since when do sentient animal beings not “feel like Warcraft”?

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I think for some, Tauren got a pass due to minotaurs in myth and legend, Vulpera on the other hand, to some, are catering to “the furry crowd”. Not saying Vulpera are not warcrafty, they are to me, but just how perception can effect some things.

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Which is pretty wild because “the furry crowd” definitely loves Tauren and plays them lol. There’s so much Tauren art by furry artists out there, like definitely a lot more than Vulpera I’d say.

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Stretch Armstrong moment.

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/0*zd0lLVifIWpu18DX

https://hearthstone.wiki.gg/images/thumb/c/ca/Peaceful_Piper_full.jpg/281px-Peaceful_Piper_full.jpg?9e111b

Uh huh.

I don’t know what that is supposed to imply, there have always been a variety of cute stuff and dark, brutal stuff in the Warcraft series. That is one of the things people have always liked about it, the variety of aesthetics but the art team still makes them work seamlessly together somehow.

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While true, Vulpera are the animal more associated with some of the more…sensual aspects of the furry fandom, even if there is more of that kind of art with tauren, pandaren and worgen at this point.

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