Does anyone want Alterac Valley more like 1.6?

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Dude, it’s the ONE thing in Classic WoW choice wise that I venomously despise…

Dungeons and Raids, mmmmm ok…

AV??? OH HELL NO! That’s sacred!

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There needs to be a choice to queue for either 1.12 or 1.7 AV.

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you guys dont understand, Blizzard can’t please everyone.
no one can.
there are always certain people like specifically something in every patch , from the very beginning all the way to 1.12.
what happened If Blizzard made it 1.6 ?
people would ask why not 1.12 .
why not this why not that.

maybe, there’s still a slim chance that Blizzard does like the 1.6AV or 1.6 anything or 1.X anything,
but Blizzard decided to make 1.12 the finale version of Classic, just to shut you all up.

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Which would be perfect! Give us are super long AV matches that don’t end in under an hour. I would be totally down for an av that is just a 40 hour slaughter fest on both sides.

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Except av gave more honor then both of them sooooo

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Except those people don’t count and I don’t care if I hurt their feelings on this one.

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99% of the playerbase seems to agree 1.12 av is not what anyone wants.
The majority of us were just unaware how much was stripped in 1.12 until now.

After the massive disappointment from this weekends av beta most players are very aware of the problem and are starting to question whether just releasing everything on what is basically a TBC catchup pre patch is really the best way to deliver an authentic classic standard gameplay.

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The cynical side of me believes that by asking us way back which elements of vanilla wow we preferred, Brack was making a list of things to have the developers NOT give us, so that his “you think you do… but you really don’t” line can come to fruition.

Via polls and threads, the majority voiced the desire for:

  • Early AV
  • No CRBGs
  • No DHKs
  • Unarmored epic mounts
  • Earlier threat mechanics prior to late game talent and gear changes
  • RPPVP servers (more wanted them via poll than straight RP)
  • Harder versions of content (Scholo/Strath)

See a pattern? It is literally as if Brack took the 18k voter poll and instructed the developers to do the opposite of what the majority desired.

/tinfoil off

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People who claim to want 1.12 have not expressed anything about 1.12 they enjoy beyond it being over with quicker so they can get the loot more efficiently.

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Just purely based on reading the explanations of what old AV was like compared to its newer version we’re getting in Classic, i think the old version sounds more fun and more inviting to play than the other one :slightly_smiling_face:

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I would be pretty sure they feel the same way about you so this discussion doesn’t actually go anywhere other than people yelling over eachother

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I just want multi-day long AVs with emphasis on the turn-in stuff back, like wolf riders and frost lord. Battling over Snowfall with Korak was fun too.

I have no interest in zergfests.

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Yes, you want 1.6 AV other than 1.12 AV,
thats understandable cuz you think 1.6 is better than 1.12AV
if Blizzard does make it 1.6AV so what about other players’ demands? like new models, achievements, Xmogs?
No? why not , Blizzard does make something that is not 1.12 for you guys,
you say 99% ? so if the other 1% of the player base want something ,that’s tens of thousands people,
what if they all post their demands on this very forum what do you say to them ? #Nochanges?
maybe it’s not specifically best for you 1.6AV lovers but I think it’s the best solution for everyone.
lets have this agreement, everybody will have 1.12.

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Vanilla is a very massive world, it has a lot of things,
people have different feelings about every thing ,
you like 1.6AV,
i like 1.2 rogue talents, others may like 1.x whatever class’ talents,
Blizzard cannot make it possible to please everyone ,
so it chose the 1.12 version, that’s the final deal,
come on .

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1.7 AV fixed bugs and overall seemed to be the best overall old AV experience. The NPCs were all still there and at full strength before the massive nerfs hit.

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Did you take a survey or something I wasn’t aware of? And it’s real cool how you try to invalidate other opinions preemptively like that. Nobody played AV prior to it being streamlined. That’s why they streamlined it. If it was all sunshine and rainbows before, then why would they have messed with it at all?

You can argue that the changes made were bad, and they should have gone a different direction, but it was not good before and it needed changing. I feel like I’m in some weird twilight zone where people keep acting like the original AV was some pvp utopia, when really it was slow boring and pointless and almost nobody played it.

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Every thread and poll showed a majority desire for early AV. Ignoring the reasons why less people played early AV is endearing.

AV was not changed to make it more enjoyable.
AV changes from 1.8 onward did not increase PVP per BG.
AV changes were made purely to make the BG end quicker so that those only there for the gear got their MoHs and gear ASAP.

Participation != Enjoyment

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Old Av was the Best. it was a war the only reason it got nerfed was because Marks of honor. what blizzard should do is give us the old AV with all the npcs no nerf and take way the Av Mark of honor. or make it so every 30min or and hour you are in the BG you receive a mark of honor for it.

I been playing wow sence beta pre release and day 1. I didn’t care for the marks but the BAttle for AV was fun and exciting when you started to push and gain some ground. it was a WAR. old AV is that Battle of Azeroth should of been because Old AV was the grand battle. they can keep every 1.12 but just give us back the NPCS and there normal HP

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Over 980 now.

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I don’t… When a battleground lasts DAYS then there is something wrong. AV in 1.12 still took multiple hours, I think that’s just fine.